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Test drove the Model Y, Model 3 and the Mach E back to back to back, yesterday

Discussion in 'Model Y' started by AlamoX, Feb 26, 2021.

  1. Chiefsfan

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    I’ve driven the Mach E and M3. The salesman was not in either car. The interior of the MME is nicer than the 3 and I appreciate the additional buttons of MME. My major concern is the inferior Ford software and their ability to deliver OTA like Tesla. Plus resale might be superior in Tesla. IMO, the MME is a better looking car than the Y. If I thought the 3 would suit my needs I’d go that way. I need to drive the Y. Right now, thinking MME.
     
  2. AlamoX

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    Just make sure you do your due diligence.

    https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/mach-e-issues-compilation-list-wiki.3430/
     
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  3. ratsbew

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    I drove the Mach-E yesterday (I've owned a LR RWD 3 since July 2018). I came away both impressed and underwhelmed. The Mach-E is a good car on the surface and will feel very comfortable to anyone who owns an ICE. However, as soon as I start thinking about all of the EV details it loses most of its luster. It has a huge battery, but doesn't go far (inefficient). The powertrain is very clunky at low speeds. OTA updates will be of questionable use outside bug fixes. Long distance travel might be technically possible, but I think it will be slow and arduous.

    The Mach-E is an okay car to recommend to a wealthy relative who doesn't do road trips outside the local area. I say wealthy, because it might turn out to be a turd and they need to be in a financial position to lose money on it.
     
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  4. elementsdk1

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    So, what led to you deciding to ask for a refund of your deposit on the Mach E and go with the Y?
     
  5. AlamoX

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    #45 AlamoX, Feb 27, 2021
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    Pretty much the first post explains the rationale. Underwhelmed with the test drive when directly compared to the Y and 3 and way too many bugs, so far.
     
  6. TomServo

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    I’d love to see some one fit 225 or 235’s on a LR AWD Model Y and conduct some tests. Those 255’s have to have a considerable negative impact on range especially at freeway speeds. We know the MYP gets back some range when fitted with the OEM 255’s. I have friends that did that.
     
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  7. pdx_m3s

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    There are people running 235s with pretty good results. That’s what we’ll be running on ours in the winter.
     
  8. Watts_Up

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    I noticed that the Mack E has handles on the ceiling above each door.

    This is something missing on the Model 3/Y and would be certainly appreciated by many people,
    especially when you cannot fully open your door when park next other cars or near a wall in a garage.

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. pdx_m3s

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    Well the Model Y test drive didn’t disappoint. We test drove a Performance model, as all the LRs were taken (oh darn). Tesla really knocked it out of the park with this car. It’s the perfect intersection of performance and utility.

    Now to decide on 5 vs 7 seats. I’m leaning toward 5, wife is leaning toward 7. I’ll be interested in reading and watching reviews of families with 2 small kids (2 and soon to be newborn here).
     
  10. JJFlash

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    Great review. If you’re considering the S Plaid + then it makes good sense to go with the Y for the missus for when you set up home charging. I have a M3P and will soon be pulling the trigger on a MY for the wife. I was going to get another charger in the garage for her but changed my mind because we can easily share.

    FWIW I went from a BMW M4 to my M3P, after owning a string of BMWs. No one talks enough about how much fun these cars are. Best car I’ve ever owned by a long shot. If you get the S Plaid+ (if you can afford the Plaid you might as well go the distance) it would be like another dimension.

    Another dimension.
     
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  11. AlamoX

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    We will set up 2 home chargers, because the MY will be garaged in our detached 2nd garage (our handicap accessible van takes up 2 spots in the attached 3 car garage due to the mechanical ramp). I am of the same mind, if I think about the plaid version just go all in with the +. My favorite car up till now was my M6 that I dropped a Dinan stroked engine in. Luxury and insane performance.
     
  12. Jeff Davlt

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    This is how I learned to drive a stick..at 18. Nothing like using a used car salesman’s eagerness to take advantage of their car and spare friends and family from the grind.
     
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  13. NY_Rob

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    What did they used to say to stick newbies? ... "grind me a pound!" :eek:
     
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    Currently the Model Y Performance can only be configured with 5 seats, whereas the Model Y Long Range can be either 5 or 7 seats. That said, unless Tesla opens up the Performance for 7 seats the decision has been made for us.

    I’d have to imagine the added weight of the third row seats negatively impacts performance and range, which is probably something Tesla isn’t interested in walking back.
     
  15. Justicepool

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    That's my plan when it comes time to replace the tires that came on my Model Y.
     
  16. SageBrush

    SageBrush REJECT Fascism

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    You have done your homework. Kudos

    Welcome to the EV world,
     
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  17. MichaelP90DL

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    I don't find the Mach-E attractive. Tacky, maybe. Thanks for the review.
     
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  18. alexgr

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    Thanks for a good comparison. Even though I don't like the Mach-E at all as it resembles me some Infiniti CUV and I always hated the long hood that obstructs view in all Ford's models, and which stands out really odd on an EV. That said, I thought the Mach-E is an interesting first try by Ford, the only major fault is mediocre "fast" charging with 80% DCFC limit. Unfortunately, they totally screwed up the rollout that includes stop ship orders, returning cars to the factory, draining 12V battery to the death, software glitches, failing electric motors, not closing doors, panel gaps(!), high-pitch sound from the screen, etc. etc. Even if I were in love with the Mach-E, I'd wait until next year at least.
     
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  19. Uncle Paul

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    Why in the World would Ford put a long hood on an EV. Would be far better to move the firewall forward and make more room on the inside for passengers and cargo.
    My picture in <- Avitar gives a good example of how Tesla had done this to good effect.

    Foolish styling trick to make buyers feel that there is a huge powerful V-8 engine up front, when in reality it is just a compact electric motor.
     
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  20. bdwalters

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    I really like the Mach E styling, inside and out. I haven’t driven one yet, but the reviewers are certainly raving about it. It appears that Ford has done a good job, particularly since this is their first real go at this. I wouldn’t buy one in the first model year, but I’ll definitely test drive one to compare to the Austin built Ys once those are out. It’s great to have options.
     
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