The Mach E looks like a reasonable car but I never once considered any American auto maker to be of “high quality”. Always leaned toward foreign builds until Tesla which was my first “American Made” car.
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Test drove the Model Y, Model 3 and the Mach E back to back to back, yesterday
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All navigation systems use GPS (which determines your current location). If I am not mistaken, when you lose cell phone connection, Google map can’t reroute because it needs cell connection to access to their server (to use routing software which is needed when you get away from the current route).
73Bruin
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Thank you for the clarification. So if I understand, your and jcanoe's posts, whenever I drive into an area where I may lose cell service and need map service, I need to download an off line map big enough to show the way back to either the destination or an area where I expect to have cell service and then switch to off-line maps. Is this correct? Sounds like its doable but not user friendly.
Meanwhile if I understand it correctly, the Tesla Navigation app, doesn't do rerouting based on road conditions but claims to download the required maps automatically and make it seamless.
In one of my post asking about navigation (to prepare for a trip to Utah’s national parks) when there is no cellular connection, one forum member was able to confirm that Tesla navigation continues to work without cell connection. However, searching for a new address won’t work unless you know the precise address since it appears that Tesla also needs cell connection to reach their server to support the search function.
I have not taken the trip (until the end of May), so I wouldn’t be able to confirm the information.
73Bruin
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Like you we test drove the Mach E and the Tesla Y... Instantly bought the Y. Nothing wrong with the Mach E, but it felt like a conventional car that was 'electrified' vs the MY which felt like it was purpose-built from the ground up. I'd be happy with the Mach E, I'm sure, but the Y was the clear winner, and my wife also agreed.
iustin
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Hmm, I wonder if searching by name is affected but navigate still works (i.e. full maps on board), or both navigation is broken? My curreny Garmin (on my Subaru) basically is always "offline", so it's designed to work that way. I wouldn't mind if search was broken, but navigation to e.g. "favorite location" still works.
Just curious.
OCJeff
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I saw that my local Ford dealer has multiple MME in stock and on order. I’ve often considered looking more heavily at the MME, especially when I read about build quality and body shop repair delays of the MY. I’m not planning road trips so the SC network is a small bonus for me.
I started down the path of Tesla MY for the performance and price point. The tax credit is guaranteed with the MME which is inviting and the range is pretty good with the MME as well.
I wish Tesla had their cars "in stock", and a tax credit (that’s what I’ve been holding out for - not a requirement but a nice to have).
I started down the path of Tesla MY for the performance and price point. The tax credit is guaranteed with the MME which is inviting and the range is pretty good with the MME as well.
I wish Tesla had their cars "in stock", and a tax credit (that’s what I’ve been holding out for - not a requirement but a nice to have).
If you haven’t already, spend some time on https://www.macheclub.com/forums/ - it’s a lot like here! ;-)
OCJeff
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Yes, I have been poking around there as well. Which is the lessor of two evils. Ford is huge and will have better customer service. But I would fully expect the usual growing pains for a brand new car technology. At least Chevy has years of experience with the Bolt, and Volt (my prior ride).
Also not sure how I feel about the 50,000 production plan for the MME. Bold strategy.
Also not sure how I feel about the 50,000 production plan for the MME. Bold strategy.
Wow. I think the M3 has the most comfortable seat in the *world*... not just in a vehicle, either. Better than any office chair, couch, etc.
Do you mean that that’s not very many? I think Tesla sells that many Model Y in two months.
OCJeff
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Yes. I called that out as a concern. Why not go all in? Why say we will only produce 50,000? It doesn’t seem like they are willing to fully commit to the platform or the tech as a whole.
I think it's because no ICE manufacturer has been able to make the transition to BEV yet... they don't want 50,000 vehicles that they have to give away. At least for now, when people are serious about purchasing a BEV, chances are very high that they'll buy a Tesla. Major auto has to change that, but I think in order to do that they'll have to assume major risk... both by cannibalising their ICE sales and by manufacturing large quantities of vehicles that they're not sure they can sell.
I thought I read somewhere that Chevy takes a $9k loss on every Bolt they sell... and look at the Bolt - does anyone *really* want one?
I thought I read somewhere that Chevy takes a $9k loss on every Bolt they sell... and look at the Bolt - does anyone *really* want one?
They are battery constrained. Thats all that they could procure in the supply chain. They want to build more but they can't.
Sorry if this has been mentioned here before, but this is a reasonably objective comparison:
www.motortrend.com
(As a biased owner) I still believe non-owners don’t fully appreciate a Tesla as it’s more than just an EV!
2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E vs. Tesla Model Y
Tesla has long ruled the electric-vehicle roost, but Ford’s Mustang Mach-E EV SUV leads a wave of new challengers. Can the Ford take over the Tesla Model Y?
(As a biased owner) I still believe non-owners don’t fully appreciate a Tesla as it’s more than just an EV!
I've been there for 6+ months. I thought Tesla owners were bad (Elon fanboys) but that site is much worse.That’s why I said it’s a lot like here!
This is the biggest strike against the MME in my opinion. I consider the Y, MME and ID.4 all competitors. VW has really bet the farm on EV, will be building a plant (or converting) in the US just for that vehicle. We all know there's a bleep-ton on Ys produced. Ford's product seems like a test market sample.
