And 70% of all drivers rate themselves as "above average".
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The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla
- Thread starter SilverString
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It drove past the designated exit...it did NOT exit, did not depart..it just kept on driving
This thread is about the beta version 10.11. A complaint about an NoA is not FSD beta specific. you can press the report button and move on, but again. Your complaint belongs somewhere else. And it isn’t catastrophic. That’s an exaggeration lol
I'm having a similar problem with my 2018 LR M3 with FSD Beta 10.10.2. Regardless of the configuration setting, it seems that if I let FSD Beta drive the car onto the highway ramp, the car transitions to AutoPilot, but Navigate on Autopilot is not engaged. I have to remember to touch the NOA enablement button (now that small mixed color icon) to get the car to continue to drive itself on the highway. But I forget - a lot, because I am already on FSD Beta so the car is already driving itself. And when I forget, the car just stays on AutoPilot and doesn't change lanes and doesn't take exits. I assume this is a known "issue" and will be fixed eventually.
i have no complaint with noa..I have FSD 10.11.2 and AGAIN when it was engaged it did not exit as it should have. How many times do I have to say that?? I guess you just don't want to hear it.
You really don’t understand what I’m saying unfortunately.
You have the beta for streets
AND
You have the regular persons software for freeways and highways NoA.
The beta was not what screwed up. NoA did. Your complaint is with NoA not taking the exit.
Done explaining this.
One more time please with pictures lol.
Sometimes data gets lost in the noise of all the posts, I admit I wasn’t sure myself if you meant NoA or FSD was engaged at the time. Does this always happen at the same place? You might want to watch the screen to see what the car thinks the roads are at that point (since this might be a map error etc).
Is your NOA enabled to “automatically turn on” in the settings? If it isn’t you’ll need to manually toggle it every drive or it’ll use AP once you exit “city streets”
That would have been the overwhelming preference of responders on the late, unlamented official Tesla forums, where it seemed as though a plurality of the members lived simply to post stuff like this.
Nope, didn't know about the cabin camera in the refresh cars. All the early reporting seemed to be primarily concerned with the performance of the Plaid. I see Tesla says the camera is in fact used for driver monitoring, which begs the question as to why they still require the wheel-torque thing. Oh well. Elon is mysterious.
Knightshade
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It's not especially mysterious.
The interior camera, which has been in the 3/Y for years now, was never intended for this purpose.
The EU recently passed a requirement for driver monitoring in new cars... and Tesla being Tesla just engineered a way to do it for $0 additional HW cost... by leveraging the existing interior camera (and then adding one to the refresh S/X)
Anyway- since it was never meant to do this, it's not very good at it.
It can't actually see well enough to KNOW if your hands are on the wheel or not.
That's a still from the interior cam. Can you tell if the guy has his hands on the wheel? Nope.
You CAN tell if he's looking at the road at least....but unlike some dedicated for the task HW it can't see through polarized sunglasses, or particularly well in the dark.
It's likely "good enough" to meet the EU requirement- but the torque sensor is there to fill in some gaps of its capabilities.
It WILL nag you if you sees you playing with your phone while driving though!
Yeah, I'm gonna give up here, since it's obvious we'll never agree. I admire, in the abstract, the purity of your dedication to linguistic abstractions over real-world performance. Still, thanks for pointing out the change in auto lane change confirmation sometime those years ago, as it did lead to me turning the (poorly named) "confirmation" feature off, and I prefer the way it works vs. the confirmation on setting.
I have a friend who totally understands the laws against using a cell phone while you're driving. After all, he says, you can see people doing insanely stupid things in cars every day even when they're not distracted by a phone.
He insists, though, that it's safe for him to do so, since he's certain of his ability to talk on a hand held phone while driving without compromising his driving ability in any way.
Good suggestion. If that doesn't work I'd disable the FSD and NoA settings, re-enable them then reset the display and do a power recycle. If that doesn't work call Tesla tech support. Good luck.
I think it’s a multiple profile problem.
In my main profile, I can toggle this on and off and its sticky. In my FSD Beta Testing profile (the only profile FSD Beta is enabled) it seems to revert back to off. I may need a hard reboot. But I’m always nervous of turning off FSD beta in every profile in case I can’t get it back later.
A suggestion as I have seen you mention pinball lane changes and trying to quick use wrong lanes to pass. Shut Off that mad max setting! On FSD beta I had nothing but grief till I turned that crap off and lowered to mild. Still passes slow cars but Stops the random pinball constant passes.
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