TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC
  1. TMC is currently READ ONLY.
    Click here for more info.

The Economist declares 2018 as tipping point for EVs

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by mspohr, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. mspohr

    mspohr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2014
    Messages:
    8,943
    Location:
    California
    • Like x 2
  2. Electroman

    Electroman Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    6,104
    Location:
    TX
    and then the anti environment goons running the country take away the EV tax credit pushing the tipping point year by a decade. That story will come in 2019
     
    • Like x 1
  3. jbcarioca

    jbcarioca Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2015
    Messages:
    5,061
    Probably not. The US will just lag the world. Remember China is the world's largest car market. Europe is moving fast to 2019 model year BEV's. mid-2018 we're going to see huge new BEV supplies.
     
    • Helpful x 2
    • Like x 2
  4. mspohr

    mspohr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2014
    Messages:
    8,943
    Location:
    California
    Fortunately, the rest of the world is on board and the US is only part of the market. As the video mentions, China and other countries are pushing hard for EVs with incentives for and bans on ICE cars. Many (non US) cities are set to ban diesel cars.
     
    • Like x 1
  5. jbcarioca

    jbcarioca Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2015
    Messages:
    5,061
    I totally forgot to mention that the CARB states may not give up so easily. Most people in those States can even read and write and some of them even vote.
     
    • Helpful x 1
    • Funny x 1
  6. mspohr

    mspohr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2014
    Messages:
    8,943
    Location:
    California
    Yes, I expect the "California Republic" (sixth largest economy in the world) to resist.
     
    • Love x 1
  7. igotzzoom

    igotzzoom Active Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,217
    Location:
    Mission Viejo, CA
    The Economist is not what it used to be. They seem more interested in spouting their lofty elitist viewpoint than doing substantial research. Is 2018 the year that most of the OEMs are committing significant resources toward EVs? Most likely. We are not likely to see significant numbers of longer-range EVs on the road until 2020.
     
    • Helpful x 1
    • Disagree x 1
    • Love x 1
  8. igotzzoom

    igotzzoom Active Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,217
    Location:
    Mission Viejo, CA
    Also, important distinction between "electrified" and "electric" cars. Volvo and others have snowed many in the media with this tricky word-play. "Electrified" can mean anything from 48v mild-hybrids to conventional hybrids to PHEVs to BEVs. Only one major automaker is fully electric right now, and that's Tesla.
     
    • Love x 1
  9. Brando

    Brando Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    2,841
    Location:
    Bainbridge Island, WA
    Any new electric power plant solar pv and wind cheaper than coal.
    Electrics get better mileage.
    As BEV trending down in cost, the evolution to electrification is simply increasing.
     
  10. jbcarioca

    jbcarioca Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2015
    Messages:
    5,061
    FWIW, most of the 48V are not hybrids at all but use the 48V to enhance turbocharging and engine controls.
     
    • Informative x 1

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC