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The Economist: Tesla Model 3 as selling SIIIX

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by dauger, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. dauger

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    #1 dauger, Aug 1, 2014
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    The Economist recently posted a new article particularly about the circumstances surrounding efforts towards the Model 3:

    Tesla's Model 3: Selling SIIIX | The Economist

    I noticed a few items to nitpick (e.g., overestimating Tesla's current battery cost), but overall this author (P.E. in Detroit) has done a much better job at accuracy than before.

    Looking at the reader's Comments, I can agree with the Tesla naysayers on one thing: the unusually high intensity of Commenters (140 posts so far) considering how matter-of-factly the piece is. I, for one, am glad to see such high attention on the subject because it's making people think.
     
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    While reading the article an idea for a T-shirt came to mind. A picture of the 3 models side by side, Tesla printed across the top, and the models letter printed under each vehicle....S 3 X
     
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    I am not sure they are far off on the price of the battery pack. I was involved in an accident 7 weeks ago where the battery pack was damaged. It had to be replaced - cost of the battery pack for my 85KW pack, a cool $46K and change plus another $2K to install. I realize this is the cost I was charged - not what Tesla pays but I would suspect that they can't be any less than at least 1/2 of the retail cost - possibly higher. I am still uncertain why Tesla does not have a better shield for the battery pack. In my case, I hit an oil spot trying to get onto the freeway onramp going about 32 miles an hour and drove over a 6" median and then back over it again to get back on the right side of the road. a 1/2" to 3/4" steel plate or some other material would have avoided the high repair cost.
     
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    You need four cars to spell S ☰ X Y So they have to wait till they starts selling the GIII CUV, Model Y.
     
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    That cost will not be their cost. JB Straubel has said their cost is under a 1/4 of the price of most Model S. But right now, if you need to replace your battery pack, that's one less car they can sell.
     
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    The 45kWh Tesla battery in the Toyota Rav4 EV is $36,000... installed at a Toyota dealer.
     
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    It's still expensive though, because they can't build a model 3 without the giga factory.
     
  8. anticitizen13.7

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    Reading through the comments section, it appears as if a significant percentage of Economist readers still don't understand Tesla's product or long-term plans.
     
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    I just added my 2 cents worth.
     
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    “Superchargers,” 440-volt DC systems that can yield an 80% recharge in about 30 minutes (pictured above)

    what is with that picture, that isn't a supercharger plug in the guys hand.
     
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    I think that's a Euro spec Supercharger plug-- a modified Typ 2 plug. Makes sense that the Economist would get their photo at a Supercharger in Europe.
     
  12. dauger

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    It's hard to tell if the correlation between Economist subscribers and commenters is strong or weak, but yes many of these commenters are ignorant, perhaps innocently so. A downside of TM not stoking demand is that such ignorance perpetuates more easily. That ignorance is another problem the GF would help solve.

    Btw, I see two anti-TM trolls, including one Jim Bullis whom I've seen before and seems to want revenge on TM and EM. Sad.
     
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    1/2 inch thick steel is around 20lbs per square foot. Do the math.
     
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    The guy's pathological -- he needs to be institutionalized:)
     
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    I assume this is you in the comments on the article?

     

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