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the environmental movement and the role of government

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by JRP3, Dec 19, 2008.

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    #22 vfx, Apr 22, 2009
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    I'm getting tired of reading that a $33,000 or $40,000 electric car is expensive and only for "upscale motorists". If they would just make this comparison:

    ICE car payment + gasoline cost + oil/etc expenses
    BEV car payment + electricity cost

    ... they would realize these BEVs are quite comparable to an affordable ICE car.
     
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    Elon says the Model S price is equivalent to a Ford Taurus.
     
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    Carbon Tax

    Social Cost of Carbon Has Wide-Ranging Impact | Smart Journalism. Real Solutions. Miller-McCune.
     
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    Guess that didn't quite work out, unless the price of a Taurus is going up next year.
     
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    He is correct if you factor the total cost of ownership, ie the cost of maintenance, fuel etc. over the life of the car.
     
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    Did he actually use those qualifiers in the original statement?
     
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    Yes he does.
     
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    There you go.
     
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    I think he said something like 'if gas was $5 a gallon, the car would become a $35,000 car in 5 years' or something like that.
     
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    From a newsletter I can't find on-line
     
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    That's quite a bit different than saying it's the same cost as a Taurus. Ownership costs of a vehicle during a lease period including driving expenses are not the same as vehicle purchase costs. However, looking at the cost of a Taurus SHO model, if you load it up with everything and compare it to a base model Model S with the rebate, you'd be pretty close. http://www.ford.com/cars/taurus/trim/?trim=sho So technically you could say the Model S will be the same price as a Ford Taurus since you aren't saying which Ford Taurus.
     

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