The Fed govt party room is about to get heated, about time.

[Blue heaven]

Electric cars set as next shock for MPs

The original story is from the Australian and behind paywall, expect an ABC "press release" from the Coalition soon, in short Minister Frydenberg would like to discuss EV incentives, those against pull the out the tired and debunked Tesla v Corolla comparison that was not only written more than a year again but is incorrect anyway, importantly EVs are being discussed and those against are increasingly in the minority.

 

[alexeiw123]

Great to see the discussion becoming mainstream. Frustrating to see the ridiculous commentary around opposing EVs.

 

[Chuq]

Found a non-paywall version - Electric cars set as next shock for MPs

 

[Blue heaven]

Great to see the discussion becoming mainstream. Frustrating to see the ridiculous commentary around opposing EVs.

Federal MPs Craig Kelly, Andrew Broad and John Williams have been described as Knuckle-draggers, I think that is very unkind to Knuckle-Draggers.

 

[WhiteStar]

Federal MPs Craig Kelly, Andrew Broad and John Williams have been described as Knuckle-draggers, I think that is very unkind to Knuckle-Draggers.

So so true. Of all the myriad reasons not to vote for these clowns, for me this is right on top of the mountain.

 

[strykeroz]

Hopefully you won't think less of me for maintaining very low expectations

 

[baillies]

I really think it is better to look at city pollution rather than global warming. Mr Frydenberg hasn’t been to successfull at stopping coal so better to see if he can get support from the health minister on the costs from pollution related to burning petrol/diesel.

 

[Blue heaven]

I really think it is better to look at city pollution rather than global warming. Mr Frydenberg hasn’t been to successfull at stopping coal so better to see if he can get support from the health minister on the costs from pollution related to burning petrol/diesel.

I absolutely 100% agree, sadly many Australians just don't get the problem of global warming, the excuse is "it doesn't exist", "we can't fix it anyway", "it's some other countries fault" and every other selfish excuse, air pollution in city and suburban areas caused by tailpipe emissions directly effects people who don't care about anyone but themselves, they sure do understand that.

 

[baillies]

It would be easy to start a public education scheme about how petrol is full of known carcinogens. I find it sad that people worry about radiation exposure from Mobile phones and even EV motors but ignore the fact that the act of fueling their car exposes them to such toxic materials. Recently watched this (

) and towards the end (~56m) is a question about toxicity of EV batteries and end of life recycling, no mention of the toxicity of one tank of petrol let alone the lifetime environmental damage. Reminds me of a colleague who repeated
Jerome Clarkson’s ‘EV batteries travel around the world before you buy and start using them’, my answer was each tank of petrol comes from the Middle East or at best Bass Straight, how many kg’s of petrol do you use per year? Some things don’t stand up to even a cursory consideration but it seems our politicians are incapable of educating for the good of the community.

 

[baillies]

Seems Mr Frydenberg has triggered lots of articles Australia's 'electric car revolution' won't happen automatically

Although I think the title is incorrect and the market will shift despite a lack of policy due to economics alone, similar to renewable energy which looks to be similarly unstoppable over the next 10 years.

 

[Shock-On-T]

I used to burn about 100 kilograms of liquid fuel per week.
Can you imagine the outcry if I'd done that in a backyard incinerator?