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GHammer
Dark Star
I knew you were going to say that and once again, not always, I got my 85+ after my 85D. And don't deprecate my 85+, it's a fine car
I knew you were going to say that and once again, not always, I got my 85+ after my 85D. And don't deprecate my 85+, it's a fine car
Oh it's an awesome car! Just not something that's been available to order for some time.
Did you seriously just call AWD a "gimmick" or were you being facetious? I can't imagine anyone thinking AWD is some mere parlor trick with near zero value, regardless of what vehicle we're talking about.
Green1 is known for posts that are contrarian to reality ;-)
green1
Active Member
Yes I did.
AWD is a very trendy gimmick right now, but it provides very little real world value for the vast majority of people. It is over-sold as being a cure-all, but it's not actually beneficial in almost any normal driving. And the rare situation where AWD would help, you'd be much better off with better tires instead, but most people with AWD ignore the better tires, and end up in a more dangerous situation because of over-confidence.
Lex
Member
Whoah, this thread got weird. I love my dual motors more than my frunk, if that's what this turned into.. ? Take the whole frunk if that's what it takes.
This frunk redesign is excellent because it seems to finally provide a proper service panel, which will not only help handy owners down the road but also Tesla Service. So I'd bet this is going to be the way it goes for all cars, RWD and AWD.
On a side yet shocking note, did I just witness Mr. Tesla himself Bjørn do a 1-handed frunk close on that video ?!??!
This frunk redesign is excellent because it seems to finally provide a proper service panel, which will not only help handy owners down the road but also Tesla Service. So I'd bet this is going to be the way it goes for all cars, RWD and AWD.
On a side yet shocking note, did I just witness Mr. Tesla himself Bjørn do a 1-handed frunk close on that video ?!??!
chipmunk
Member
I think the appearance of the frunk being smaller than the pre-facelift dual motor frunk is mostly an optical illusion caused by the movement of the weather stripping. Compare the two side by side.
green1
Active Member
green1
Active Member
I'm not sure if "gimmick" is the word I'd use for AWD. But I totally see where green1 is coming from.
I have 2 small kids. The rear facing seats were on my must have list. So not only do I not have that big empty cavity under the floor panel in the back (the seats are folded in there), I also don't want to pile too much stuff in the trunk on a regular basis, in case I want to use the rear seats. So this makes the large frunk extra valuable for me.
Also as for AWD, over the last 5 years my average speed has probably been around 24mph - carting kids around and commuting in the city. AWD just isn't gonna change my life for this car. Again, I live in a multi car household.
I have 2 small kids. The rear facing seats were on my must have list. So not only do I not have that big empty cavity under the floor panel in the back (the seats are folded in there), I also don't want to pile too much stuff in the trunk on a regular basis, in case I want to use the rear seats. So this makes the large frunk extra valuable for me.
Also as for AWD, over the last 5 years my average speed has probably been around 24mph - carting kids around and commuting in the city. AWD just isn't gonna change my life for this car. Again, I live in a multi car household.
Peteybabes
redneck drivin' a tesla...
has anybody taken the plastic off to see how much room is available behind in the facelift models?
could just take out the plastic and have a bunch more room?
could just take out the plastic and have a bunch more room?
Take a look at this post: HEPA Air filter for everyone...
It doesn't look like there is a lot of extra room in there.
Dual motor was not part of the original product plan in 2012, but they added it later after the market demanded it. This led to the Dual motor cars having significantly different chassis than the RWD cars, requiring separate crash testing.
what I've heard is that with the facelift Tesla was looking to rationalize the chassis. Dual motor was not going away so it was originally going to be that RWD was no longer going to be available. But they decided to make an entry level model by just making the AWD chassis with no front motor hardware installed.
So it's not possible to retrofit a larger frunk into a RWD facelift car.
what I've heard is that with the facelift Tesla was looking to rationalize the chassis. Dual motor was not going away so it was originally going to be that RWD was no longer going to be available. But they decided to make an entry level model by just making the AWD chassis with no front motor hardware installed.
So it's not possible to retrofit a larger frunk into a RWD facelift car.
Dithermaster
Member
I like my large P85+ frunk. I only use it a occasionally, but it's handy when you have a lot of stuff or the time we hauled patio bricks home and put 2/3 in the back and 1/3 in the front to distribute the load (tarps on both ends to prevent mess).
But by far the best use is having it open at midwest car shows. People look in the front, walk to the back (which is also open), then back to the front, and their brow just gets more and more furrowed until they have to ask where the motor is.
But by far the best use is having it open at midwest car shows. People look in the front, walk to the back (which is also open), then back to the front, and their brow just gets more and more furrowed until they have to ask where the motor is.
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