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The New RAV4 EV
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stopcrazypp
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This week's paper Autocar says the Rav4 EV will be US only, whereas the online version says available in UK in 2013. Which is correct?
tdelta1000
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http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2010/10/11/daily61.html
Tesla Motors Inc. said in a filing Wednesday with the Securities and Exchange Commission that it will receive about $60 million from Toyota Motor Corp. as part of collaboration on an electric-vehicle version of Toyota's RAV4.
Palo Alto-based Tesla and Toyota agreed in July that Tesla would develop an electric powertrain system for the RAV4. At that time Toyota purchased $50 million of Tesla's common stock in a private placement.
Tesla will develop the powertrain system including a battery, power electronics module, motor, gearbox and associated software for the RAV4's electric version. The $60 million will be for development services, Tesla said in the SEC filing, and will be paid in various installments.
Tesla Motors Inc. said in a filing Wednesday with the Securities and Exchange Commission that it will receive about $60 million from Toyota Motor Corp. as part of collaboration on an electric-vehicle version of Toyota's RAV4.
Palo Alto-based Tesla and Toyota agreed in July that Tesla would develop an electric powertrain system for the RAV4. At that time Toyota purchased $50 million of Tesla's common stock in a private placement.
Tesla will develop the powertrain system including a battery, power electronics module, motor, gearbox and associated software for the RAV4's electric version. The $60 million will be for development services, Tesla said in the SEC filing, and will be paid in various installments.
At first thought it seems like the easiest thing would just be to squeeze in a slightly de-tuned Roadster drive-train in there.
(Already proven, and worked out, right?)
But that would make for a rather high performing Rav4EV, right?
I wonder if they would develop a special cheaper, lower powered motor just for that project?
I think with the SmartED they used Tesla battery pack tech, but a rather unremarkable low performance non-Tesla motor.
(Unlike the Roadster based prototype Tesla showed off first.)
What kind of performance and component costs does Rav4EV end up with?
The V6 version of Rav4 already has a rather powerful engine and class leading acceleration, so I suppose they could try to equal or better that model.
(Already proven, and worked out, right?)
But that would make for a rather high performing Rav4EV, right?
I wonder if they would develop a special cheaper, lower powered motor just for that project?
I think with the SmartED they used Tesla battery pack tech, but a rather unremarkable low performance non-Tesla motor.
(Unlike the Roadster based prototype Tesla showed off first.)
What kind of performance and component costs does Rav4EV end up with?
The V6 version of Rav4 already has a rather powerful engine and class leading acceleration, so I suppose they could try to equal or better that model.
There was a shot of it being put together by a robot in the Model S thread so probably no issue.
Regarding performance, there was an enthusiastic tweet (I think it got posted here) from a Toyota insider about its performance over the gas version.
Regarding performance, there was an enthusiastic tweet (I think it got posted here) from a Toyota insider about its performance over the gas version.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
It might be more cost competitive to put in a stock Tesla motor and just use a smaller controller and lower power pack for cost savings. Mass produced the motor should be the cheapest component.
There is a debate on ABG as to why is Toyota getting the tech from Tesla. People seem to assume electric drive of a Prius can be easily used for a BEV ...
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/10/14/officially-official-tesla-inks-60m-toyota-deal-to-supply-compo/
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/10/14/officially-official-tesla-inks-60m-toyota-deal-to-supply-compo/
Maybe we should stop asking "why?" and just enjoy watching it unfold?
Maybe it is because of technology, PR, personal relationships, or some combination?
Hopefully they both benefit and we get better products because of it...
Although... One question I can't help asking myself is "what does Daimler think of all this?"
Maybe it is because of technology, PR, personal relationships, or some combination?
Hopefully they both benefit and we get better products because of it...
Although... One question I can't help asking myself is "what does Daimler think of all this?"
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
The Tesla motor has the benefit of not using rare earth permanent magnets which may become scarce and expensive. It's also designed to be the main motivator for an EV, not an intermittent one like the Prius system.
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