israndy
Supercharger Hunter
Ah, we need to wait and see what the actual release truck is like. Right now everyone is just projecting what they THINK the truck will be, although it would be hard based on what we have seen so far.
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The real purpose of the tri-motor Cybertruck
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I tried towing my Airstream trailer in freezing weather only once; when I came to a stoplight the trailer slid sideways into a car.
Don't plan to try that again.
Don't plan to try that again.
It's going to be the most anticipated release yet. No real reference to compare, just green field thinking inside and out.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
Proving my point, but doesn't stop me from dreaming too...
I still want the drop-down rear seat to extend the bed to inside the cab, and now I wanna be able to pull into a truck stop and MEGAcharge my cT in 15 minutes, as I just heard suggested on The Limiting Factor channel on YouTube.
Do you mean 'Greenfield' as in not 'Brownfield'? Constructing on virgin area? Or some other use of the word? Jenny Greenfield was always smart, perhaps you mean her, but that assumes you also grew up in Arlington.
I notice that a lot, tbh. I read the comments on InsideEVs and Teslarati from time to time, and I see constant debates between the folks that need to pee for 30 minutes every two hours against the folks that drive 600+ mile diesel station wagons that only stop for 5 minutes before the next 600 mile leg.
Neither is a representative sample of the average buyer, of course.
roblab
Active Member
Hmmm. 500 miles is roughly 8 hours. Do it all the time, but then I don't drink coffee all day. Or, maybe some of us are gifted.
I think the volumes are going to be huge so the aftermarket is going to take care of us. I figure the CT will have good "bones" (drive-train, battery, suspension, shell, ...etc..) so all sorts of mods and additions are going to be possible.
We'll get a preview of the new large cells when the Model S Plaid comes out and gets torn down and tested.
Yes, "greenfield" and not green (space) field.
Greenfield project - Wikipedia
In many disciplines a greenfield project is one that lacks constraints imposed by prior work. The analogy is to that of construction on greenfield land where there is no need to work within the constraints of existing buildings or infrastructure.
We'll get a preview of the new large cells when the Model S Plaid comes out and gets torn down and tested.
Yes, "greenfield" and not green (space) field.
Greenfield project - Wikipedia
In many disciplines a greenfield project is one that lacks constraints imposed by prior work. The analogy is to that of construction on greenfield land where there is no need to work within the constraints of existing buildings or infrastructure.
Mr. Uujjj's rule of thumb for towing with an electric vehicle is that a trailer of x pounds will use x/10 Wh/mi on top of what the vehicle itself uses, regardless of what EV you are using. So if the Cybertruck gets 500mi with a 200kWh battery (my best guess), it uses around 400Wh/mi. A 10000lb trailer will use an additional 1000Wh/mi on top of that for a total of 1400Wh/mi. So the Cybertruck with a 10000lb trailer should get around 142mi of range.
(This is a wild guess crudely based on what I've read about towing with the Model X and some basic physics calculations. Mr. Uujjj does not guarantee the accuracy of this rule.)
Now, I'm ignoring aerodynamics here, and aero matters a lot, so the "Uujjj rule" is very crude. But it can at least get the discussion started before we start seeing real world numbers.
(This is a wild guess crudely based on what I've read about towing with the Model X and some basic physics calculations. Mr. Uujjj does not guarantee the accuracy of this rule.)
Now, I'm ignoring aerodynamics here, and aero matters a lot, so the "Uujjj rule" is very crude. But it can at least get the discussion started before we start seeing real world numbers.
Depends on aerodynamics and how many layers the driver is wearing
I lived in the Midwest for seven years. I saw people pulling boats and campers everywhere in the summer, but rarely saw anyone towing anything in the winter months. Towing a big boat at 30 below is pretty sketchy even with a diesel F-250 dually. Even here in California I see far fewer trailers during rainy season. Towing is mostly a summertime thing.
Maine, you will see people tow all year long. Boat, snowmobiles, trailers full of wood, construction trailers.
My dump trailer seems to get used all year long. Between wood, compost, sand, gravel, helping people move it gets a fair amount of use.
We don't currently own a travel trailer but had the dump trailer, boat/trailer, and 12 spot kayak trailer. I seem to be towing something a fair amount. The supercharger network in Maine has large gaps where you can go hundreds of miles without one.
My Tundra is sketchy once my dump trailer is full I was looking at an F350 before I ordered the Cyber truck. With the air suspension it should be a great upgrade.
Keep in mind 500 miles “range” is just a metric.
500 miles range is really 300-350 miles range in practice. Depending on a dozen things.
So no, it’s not just towing.
I also suspect eventually there will be a dual motor option with the Tri motor battery and perhaps get 600 miles range option.
500 miles range is really 300-350 miles range in practice. Depending on a dozen things.
So no, it’s not just towing.
I also suspect eventually there will be a dual motor option with the Tri motor battery and perhaps get 600 miles range option.
RE: Range
I've always worked and lived in urban areas. That means traffic, traffic lights, general congestion, pedestrians, bicycle riders, ...etc.. so I'm getting good mileage with my MY.
Hypermiling Records: nextmove sets world records - Lausitzring
I'm really impressed with the MY efficiency after going up and down 2000 ft mountains to go hiking.
Sustained freeway drives are rare right now, but I'm planning to be taking long road trips when the CT is released. It's going to be interesting to see the CT's efficiency going off-roading. I won't be doing the Baja or any sort of trophy truck racing.
I've always worked and lived in urban areas. That means traffic, traffic lights, general congestion, pedestrians, bicycle riders, ...etc.. so I'm getting good mileage with my MY.
Hypermiling Records: nextmove sets world records - Lausitzring
I'm really impressed with the MY efficiency after going up and down 2000 ft mountains to go hiking.
Sustained freeway drives are rare right now, but I'm planning to be taking long road trips when the CT is released. It's going to be interesting to see the CT's efficiency going off-roading. I won't be doing the Baja or any sort of trophy truck racing.
I want the range to do the 200 miles trip to the mountains without charging. Due to the 7000' climb to Donner pass and healthy highway speeds, it consumes over 300 miles of range (plus I carry a bike on a hitch rack) with the X. With 500 miles, I can charge to 90% and just go. The closed bed is added bonus. And the stainless steel body will be great to venture off the beaten path without worrying about paint.
Agree with your synopsis especially because I have a Raptor. I love it but it serves no real purpose and than to be fun. I ordered a tri-motor CT because it serves the same purpose--FUN!!! And, tbh, the range is really attractive. My Raven S at 400 on a full charge is great. However, if we want to road trip more range, more space for stuff will be great. It almost begs for you to take it on a road trip. Of course my last comment is the ultimate in pure conjecture because I've never, seen or sat in one. However, I've made a decision in my mind that it's going to be great thus it will. I think we are going to venture to Yellowstone from the east coast as soon as we get it and shake it down.
I'm going to take my MY PUP from NJ to FL, it will require 5 charge stops and I think it'll be fine. I had a diesel MB GL350BTC and it only had to stop once, but my wife's bladder requires at least two additional stops so this won't be bad. Planning splitting over two days. 90% charge is about 250 miles.
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
So, am I the only one that sees this vehicle as the ultimate family car? Ample room for 6. LOADS of cargo room for everything from luggage to groceries. Car seats...no problem. Ease of access with the air suspension.
I think the Cybertruck will steal a large chunk of the SUV/mini van market as well as the truck market.
Dan
I think the Cybertruck will steal a large chunk of the SUV/mini van market as well as the truck market.
Dan
I know I am going to use it as a replacement for our family trip car. We sold our suv a couple years ago for an E wagon and that was a huge upgrade. I am looking to replace the wagon with a CT, but probably not for another 3 or 4 years. I love the thought of being able to store all our ski/camping gear securely in the back without a extremely loud ski box on top.
I am not sure how far your family vacations are but I don't think seating 6 would be enjoyable.
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
LOL, I just said it could fit 6. Never said it was advisable in every instance.
Dan
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