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The "Smart Grid"
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Technical details of some control components:
http://www.gers.com.co/representaciones/pbeckwith/semsmartgrid2010/Smart-Grid-Roadmap-Web.pdf
http://www.gers.com.co/representaciones/pbeckwith/semsmartgrid2010/Smart-Grid-Roadmap-Web.pdf
Slap a Geiger counter on there too while they are at it...
And a Shotspotter? And a traffic camera? Maybe just a crows nest for big brother.
It reminds me, the DBS satellite services need to know the regional weather so they can boost transmitter power on spots beams as needed to punch the signal through the areas suffering from the poorest reception.
And a Shotspotter? And a traffic camera? Maybe just a crows nest for big brother.
It reminds me, the DBS satellite services need to know the regional weather so they can boost transmitter power on spots beams as needed to punch the signal through the areas suffering from the poorest reception.
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What are you going on about? The article was about using weather information to predict (and prepare) for demand on the grid. Other examples were using weather forecasts to predict how much solar or wind energy might be produced over the next few days, or to suggest optimal thermostat settings for buildings. The point was using weather information for the more efficient use of valuable resources (having both an environmental and an economic upside). Don't know where the tinfoil hat stuff is coming from.
I really wish Stanford would use weather information for the automatic sprinkler system. Too many times I've seen the sprinklers watering the grass while it's raining in what are supposedly drought years.
It just got me thinking how multiple entities are competing for space on the top of poles in public spaces.
What with all the fuss over trying to disguise cellphone towers and such.
My convoluted suggestion (somewhat tongue in cheek) was that someone ought to try to provide an "all in one" "tower topper" that provides all these features together, so once someone gets the rights to mount a powered station on top of a pole somewhere you could try to get weather monitoring, sound monitoring, radiation monitoring, cell repeaters, and whatever makes sense to have up high in a neighborhood.
What with all the fuss over trying to disguise cellphone towers and such.
My convoluted suggestion (somewhat tongue in cheek) was that someone ought to try to provide an "all in one" "tower topper" that provides all these features together, so once someone gets the rights to mount a powered station on top of a pole somewhere you could try to get weather monitoring, sound monitoring, radiation monitoring, cell repeaters, and whatever makes sense to have up high in a neighborhood.
The picture on the story is/was a weather vane:
It had just got me thinking about weather monitoring equipment installed on top of buildings, poles, etc.
Couple that to the fact that I had been seeing a bunch of stories recently about roof mounted radiation detection equipment like this:
Gaps in US radiation monitoring system revealed | US National Headlines | Comcast.net
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/03/26/gaps-us-radiation-monitoring-system-revealed/
And other stories about cellphone towers trying to look like trees.
Anyways, sorry if the references and connections were a little tenuous.
It had just got me thinking about weather monitoring equipment installed on top of buildings, poles, etc.
Couple that to the fact that I had been seeing a bunch of stories recently about roof mounted radiation detection equipment like this:
Gaps in US radiation monitoring system revealed | US National Headlines | Comcast.net
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/03/26/gaps-us-radiation-monitoring-system-revealed/
And other stories about cellphone towers trying to look like trees.
Anyways, sorry if the references and connections were a little tenuous.
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SByer
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It's sad that PG&E's mis-handling of the SmartMeter program is impeding progress. And the broken units just helped give voice to the crazies that insist the wireless signal has any health effect at all. I just hope that PG&E is allowed to charge those who opt-out of the SmartMeter program up the wazoo.
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Still very small in the grand scheme of things (0.1 percent of the installed meters in California made by that company), but PG&E made it sound like it NEVER happens (which is almost never true).
If you want it off they are charging $135 upfront/$20 per month or $270 upfront/$14 per month or you can pay by kWh. I got a slip of paper from them with my bill that says essentially the same thing.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...rt-meter-opt-out-plan-carries-big-price-tag7/
I'm not certain that PG&E trusts the smart meters either. I have one of them which has been "programmed" for time of use billing and last month I did a lot less driving and started charging at work together with the weather getting warmer my electric usage dropped by about 2/3rds. When I didn't get my bill on time I was suspicious. Calling PG&E I was led on a trail of service people each saying "everything looks fine, billing just will not release the bill." They opened a case for this event. This morning the website now shows my amount due so it got cleared up. But it occurs to me that an electric bill may change wildly with an electric car and that may trigger all sorts of problems. The whole support system assumes a predictable cycle of usage. Can you imagine a million electric cars charging to go on vacation? Or return from vacation? If the weather is hot, will there be power at public charge stations? The utilities can reduce power to EVSEs.
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