Tesla kit also includes installation by Tesla Service centerThanks for posting the details. It looks like your RB CCB System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid is $3,000 cheaper and has larger rotors than the Tesla kit.
But the Tesla kit includes a rear caliper (4 piston) instead of reusing the stock caliper (1 piston). That has to account for some of the $3000 difference.
Carbon Ceramic Brake System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)
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The racing brake Kit also includes spacers. That is very common with all big brakes kits
However, they have a disclaimer saying this on their kit using 394mm rotors and ZR1 calipers using the spacers:
"This kit is not recommended for any heavy tracking applications than street and spirited driving, customers purchase this kit for track applications is solely at their own risks."
I hope to explain that as it does not make sense and their Iron and CCB 390mm kits do not say that. That is the kit that I would be most likely interested in.
However, they have a disclaimer saying this on their kit using 394mm rotors and ZR1 calipers using the spacers:
"This kit is not recommended for any heavy tracking applications than street and spirited driving, customers purchase this kit for track applications is solely at their own risks."
I hope to explain that as it does not make sense and their Iron and CCB 390mm kits do not say that. That is the kit that I would be most likely interested in.
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
"Caliper Spacer" Typically used on Radial (Top) mount calipers in higher end cars with upright eg. Ferrari, McLaren, Porsche etc. to space out a caliper for a larger rotor.
Plaid happens to have radial mt calipers on front (upright), so using spacer is not a concern (in rigidty and strength) as the mounting points between the caliper and upright remains the same, which is also a very popular upgrade on Porsche's like 992 GT3 380/380 standard iron can upgrade to pccb's 410/390 with a caliper spacer.
"Caliper Adaptor" as its name suggested is a part designed to "Adapt" one (Caliper-ZR1) to fit the other (Plaid upright) which involves the change in height and offset.
Plaid's mounting points are wider then ZR1, and the adaptor must be made to fit Plaid's upright as well as ZR1 caliper with narrower mounting points and the boss OD is restricted to "no interference" with upright casting and how far it must extend on offset.
So from above 3D you can imagine how a ZR1 caliper is installed to the adaptor and attached to Plaid's upright in rigidity and strength compared to the OE caliper kit straight up with a "Caliper Spacer"
Plaid happens to have radial mt calipers on front (upright), so using spacer is not a concern (in rigidty and strength) as the mounting points between the caliper and upright remains the same, which is also a very popular upgrade on Porsche's like 992 GT3 380/380 standard iron can upgrade to pccb's 410/390 with a caliper spacer.
"Caliper Adaptor" as its name suggested is a part designed to "Adapt" one (Caliper-ZR1) to fit the other (Plaid upright) which involves the change in height and offset.
Plaid's mounting points are wider then ZR1, and the adaptor must be made to fit Plaid's upright as well as ZR1 caliper with narrower mounting points and the boss OD is restricted to "no interference" with upright casting and how far it must extend on offset.
So from above 3D you can imagine how a ZR1 caliper is installed to the adaptor and attached to Plaid's upright in rigidity and strength compared to the OE caliper kit straight up with a "Caliper Spacer"
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
That wasn't clear to the service advisor I spoke to today. He still needs clarification.
What I am afraid Tesla is going to do is make their $20k kit a requirement for unlocking the top speed of 200mph.
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Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Those of us who bought the 200mph car before the wording change will not stand for that.
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Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Yes, and we would likely win that argument. Hasn’t happened yet though.
If anything a lower cost option for plaid owners that didn't have the cf brake option id be down with.
Agreed. I'm hoping that Tesla has an acceptable plan for us. They have to know that there will be a *sugar* storm of legal filings otherwise.
Below pics on GM ZR1/Z28 (Brembo) retrofit kit test show you some insights you will never see anywhere else, nor from the ad/marketing media campaign by other vender on the same kit, aside from the concern on extended overhang of caliper mount.
1. The pad bottom leaves only 0.5mm clearance to the rotor hat hardware.
2. Pad edge has 1.5mm overhang above the rotor edge.
1. The pad bottom leaves only 0.5mm clearance to the rotor hat hardware.
2. Pad edge has 1.5mm overhang above the rotor edge.
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You have choice to purchase either UP kit or RB kit, anyhow either way is better off than trying to put the kit together yourself, so you can hold the vender accountable for the integrity and result.
Although some of the flaws can be corrected in RB kit but the design is still constrained to what can be done, so a Plaid owner who wishes to purchase RB kit must acknowledge the disclaimer before the order can be accepted.
This 390/390 kit is an excellent CCB upgrade for an easy (parts swap) installation while keeping the OE configuration (calipers and pads).
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Front rotor wt:
Clear OE 19" wheel:
This 390/390 kit can be shipped NEXT week. One seat still available for pre-order purchase with a $500 deduct. (Code code "DED-500")
Save 10% on RB CCB BBK (390/365) Bundle Kit (With 390/390 Option) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R47 & 2R46) - Fits OE Calipers
Save 10% on RB CCB BBK (390/390) Bundle Kit (With 390/365 Option) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R47 & 2R46) - Fit OE Calipers
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Front rotor wt:
Clear OE 19" wheel:
This 390/390 kit can be shipped NEXT week. One seat still available for pre-order purchase with a $500 deduct. (Code code "DED-500")
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Tesla will also likely require the full track package including the new Zero-G wheels and tires.
Tesla Parts Catalog reveals Zero-G wheel package coming soon to Model S Plaid
If you don't like the stock 19" Tempest or upgraded 21" Arachnid wheels on the new Model S, you'll soon be able to buy 20" Zero-G wheels.
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They might do that also. It should not matter to those of us that purchased prior to the wording change. As far as I am concerned it is Tesla's responsibility to make our cars match what they advertised and sold to us. I'm happy to wait and see what they do but my expectations will likely stay the same.Tesla will also likely require the full track package including the new Zero-G wheels and tires.
Tesla Parts Catalog reveals Zero-G wheel package coming soon to Model S Plaid
If you don't like the stock 19" Tempest or upgraded 21" Arachnid wheels on the new Model S, you'll soon be able to buy 20" Zero-G wheels.
Considering one of these ZR1 rotor retrofit kits?
- Highly affordable.
- Applications are certified w/warranty.
- Designed and built by a professional brake company specialized in CCM rotor kits.
- Easy installation (Bolt on except dust shield mod.)
- Improve performance and handling
- Low maintenance.
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