Vendor The Ultimate Carbon Ceramic Brake System for Model S Plaid

[TriTexan]

The barrel clearance is ~14mm on factory 21", so we are pretty certain the kit can effectively clear 20" wheel.
Plenty of offset (spoke) clearance - Need no special/custom made to fit the kit.

A member used the wheel fitment template to test fit Signature "SV104" 19" rim and confirm the kit can clear the 19" - Just need to watch out the weight balancer placement.

Wheel fitment template: 2R44-K

Thank you - I'm wanting to run very specific tires and the ONLY diameter tire that is a good match for the Plaid's 28 inch overall diameter is a 20 inch size, so this means I can run a larger, stickier tire with your kit. Thank you very much for the assist. I will ask Forgeline to confirm the fitment as well based on your technical specs.

And just to confirm - we are talking about the 420mm front and 390mm rear option, correct?

 

[RB_PB]

Yes. 420 front and 390 rear, comparable to Taycan and the latest 992 Turbo S, but RB CCB system is more efficient, and our rotors are made of long carbon fibers with directional vanes so they are more durable and efficient in dissipating the hear. We expect it to outperform any CCB brake kits out there and is ready to take the most demanding brake challenge in the automotive industry.

We also like to prove to the Tesla community for those with understanding from Porsche and/or McLaren tracking enthusiasts that contrary to the conventional wisdom, CCB in fact can be more cost effective in addition to the confidence inspiring over iron setup.

 

[TriTexan]

Yes. 420x38 front and 390x28 rear, comparable to Taycan and the latest 992 Turbo S, but RB CCB system is more efficient, and our rotors are made of long carbon fibers with directional vanes so they are more durable and efficient in dissipating the hear. We expect it to outperform any CCB brake kits out there and is ready to take the most demanding brake challenge in the automotive industry.

We also like to prove to the Tesla community for those with understanding from Porsche and/or McLaren tracking enthusiasts that contrary to the conventional wisdom, CCB in fact can be more cost effective in addition to the confidence inspiring over iron setup.

Great info. One last question - are there any deletions of OEM functionality such as brake temp sensors or other characteristics that are altered or changed with your system?

Thanks in advance for the quick clarifications! It is much appreciated.

 

[RB_PB]

Plaid brake pads use mechanical wear sensor ie. with an attached spring so when the lining (friction material) worn down to about 3-4m, it will touch the rotor surface and generate audible noise warning the time for pad replacement.

Plaid front pad:
Front view.

Back view.

Detail view of a mechanical wear sensor (bottom is a steel back plate, top is the lining).

The other type is an electronic (annunciation) wear sensor, which has a cable with "plug-in" sensor like most higher end European cars, Mercedes, Aston Martin, McLaren, Ferrari etc.

Carbon Ceramic Brake Options for 720S (600LT/765LT)

When the brake pad lining is worn down below the sensor and touched to the metal element embedded in the sensor, it will trigger the circuit, the warning light illuminated in the panel indicating the time for pad replacement.

As you can see none of these sensors has a temperature monitoring functionality. Rather it's a separate device (temperature probe) to monitor the braking temperature to give warning signal when the preset temperature is reached, but it's outside the brake system and shouldn't be a concern.

Our OE replacement pads come with "mechanical sensor" just like OE; while brake pads for the caliper kit have sensor slots as shown in the above pic.

It's a good practice to check the brake pads periodically before getting warning signals.

 

[RB_PB]

Money Saving Coupon Code in effect:

• "DED-1000" Save $1,000 for the system kit (420/390): RB CCB System Kit (420/390) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R16-K) (20"+ wheels)
• "DED-500" Save $500 for OE caliper BBK (390/390): RB CCB BBK (390/390) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R47 & 2R16) - Fit OE Calipers ( fits stock 19")

Affordable CCB rotor kits:

• OE Replacement (380/365) rotor kit: RB CCB (380x32/365x28) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R45 & 2R46) - Fit OE Calipers
• Front rotor kit (390x32)/C7 ZR1 rear discs: RB CCB Front BBK (390x32) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade - Fit OE Calipers

They said One should try Carbon Ceramic Brake in his life time. Shouldn't you?

 

[mrliquidity]

Thanks can't wait for my 390/390 ccb kit to arrive Hope I’m the 2nd order to use the coupon code so the kit ships out on or around 12/15.

 

[RB_PB]

Fitment test on 390/390 ccb kit:

Front rotor wt:

Under OE caliper:

Clear OE 19" wheel:

Rear rotor wt:

 

[KevinY]

@RB_PB Any modification to the dust shields?
Too bad on the rears, I'll need to wait for my 20" to arrive.

 

[RB_PB]

20" should fit the rear kit.

Dust-shield modification:

• Front: Not required. In fact we found out the front dust shield was made for 390mm rotor.
• Rear: Yes - Even with 20" wheel due to the OE dust shield (edge lip) has no room for a larger rotor. It can be trimmed, bent, or removed.

 

[RB_PB]

Model S Plaid Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit

Available early 2023: The Model S Plaid Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit Designed for the ultimate track experience, the Model S Plaid Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit is a complete hardware package that delivers maximum, repeatable stopping power during high-performance driving. Our rotors feature...

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Model S Plaid Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit $20,000​

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Description​

Available by mid-2022: The Model S Plaid Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit
Designed for the ultimate track experience, the Model S Plaid Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit is a complete hardware package that delivers maximum, repeatable stopping power during high-performance driving.
The kit includes all-new carbon-silicon carbide rotors that provide maximum high-temperature durability and heat management, one-piece forged calipers with high-performance pads and high-temperature brake fluid.
Includes:

• 2x 410 x 40mm carbon-silicon carbide front rotors
• 2x 410 x 32mm carbon-silicon carbide rear rotors
• 2x 6-piston one-piece, forged front calipers
• 2x 4-piston one-piece, forged rear calipers
• 2x integrated, caliper-mounted parking brakes
• 4x high-performance front brake pads
• 4x high-performance rear brake pads
• 1x bottle of high-temperature brake fluid

Note: This package is only compatible with Model S Plaid vehicles equipped with 21” Arachnid wheels.

 

[RB_PB]

It's good to see Tesla has released a Carbon Ceramic Brake kit for the Plaid. Regardless it's for Street or Track, Pro and Con, Worth it or Not... just like the endless debates on rennlist's (Porsche forum) " PCCB or Not To Be", we can at least have the following observations:

1. CCB is a new brake technology with many advantage (although has its shortcomings) over conventional iron brakes (whether you agree or not) that no motor company (Including Tesla) can ignore.

Reference reading: Carbon Ceramic Brake Demystified​

2. Since the initial introduction of Pccb for Porsche 996 GT3 (optional) until now 992 Turbo S (Default), there are significant improvement in disc material as well as the production process which make CCB performs better and more durable than 20 years ago, especially the long (continuous) carbon fibers (Aftermarket) are now widely used to replace short (chopped) carbon fibers (Brembo/OE) which is a big stride in "strength" and "durability" improvement on CCB.

Reference rearing: Difference in Disc Material & Design:​

3. Advantage and Economy Consideration - The initial CCB buying cost is higher than iron brake but if a proper caliper & pads are used, front and rear kits are balanced. The only consumable is the brake pad. CCB rotors are literally indestructible, never crack (from thermal stress), wear, or warp like iron would. So over the time the maintenance and down time cost is actual cheaper than iron, let alone it always provides you that confidence inspiring spirit you need on tracks than worries and attention on iron brakes.

Reference reading: WHY CARBON CERAMIC BRAKE?

Stick to conventional wisdom like a general advice you would hear from some experts, OR embrace the new technology with your own research and endeavor - Your choice and never have to be intimidated by those venders who only can supply iron brakes with biased opinion.

Finally: Does Your Track Car Need Carbon Ceramic Brakes?

 

[FlatSix911]

It's good to see Tesla has released a Carbon Ceramic Brake kit for the Plaid. Regardless it's for Street or Track, Pro and Con, Worth it or Not... just like the endless debates on rennlist's (Porsche forum) " PCCB or Not To Be", we can at least have the following observations:

1. CCB is a new brake technology with many advantage (although has its shortcomings) over conventional iron brakes (whether you agree or not) that no motor company (Including Tesla) can ignore.

Reference reading: Carbon Ceramic Brake Demystified​

2. Since the initial introduction of Pccb for Porsche 996 GT3 (optional) until now 992 Turbo S (Default), there are significant improvement in disc material as well as the production process which make CCB performs better and more durable than 20 years ago, especially the long (continuous) carbon fibers (Aftermarket) are now widely used to replace short (chopped) carbon fibers (Brembo/OE) which is a big stride in "strength" and "durability" improvement on CCB.

Reference rearing: Difference in Disc Material & Design:​

3. Advantage and Economy Consideration - The initial CCB buying cost is higher than iron brake but if a proper caliper & pads are used, front and rear kits are balanced. The only consumable is the brake pad. CCB rotors are literally indestructible, never crack (from thermal stress), wear, or warp like iron would. So over the time the maintenance and down time cost is actual cheaper than iron, let alone it always provides you that confidence inspiring spirit you need on tracks than worries and attention on iron brakes.

Reference reading: WHY CARBON CERAMIC BRAKE?

Stick to conventional wisdom like a general advice you would hear from some experts, OR embrace the new technology with your own research and endeavor - Your choice and never have to be intimidated by those venders who only can supply iron brakes with biased opinion.

Finally: Does Your Track Car Need Carbon Ceramic Brakes?

Thanks for posting the referenced links... I'm also a long-term Rennlist member.

 

[RB_PB]

Following Tesla's announcement we have been receiving inquiries from Plaid owners re how RB CCB compared to Tesla CCB kit, and RB iron BBK vs. CCB BBK. etc.

In response we have just consolidated our brake offer into one matrix for easy viewing, including Tesla factory's CCB kit info, and shipping status on various kits: ROTOR, PAD, BRAKE KIT - SELECT VEHICLE - TESLA - PLAID & LR (2021+) - RB Performance Brakes

If you have any questions or concern, such as would install RB brake kits void Tesla's factory warranty, or if a conversion would change the functionality of the original brake system etc., please reply to this thread than PM or emails so we can respond and share with other members, or better yet for Tesla's to chime in.

Our brake program is thoughtfully developed & refined for Plaid owners individual needs (from street driving to tracking), we can help you to decide which kit is more suitable for you if you still can't decide after viewing the matrix. We rather present the objective facts and design/application data so consumers can do their own evaluation and decide.

Since we have such a comprehensive offer, so you should not be confused by learning from different "experts" opinion. eg. we will not tell you to buy something you don't need, nor will tell you "You don't need rear BBK", or "Don't purchase CCB" from other venders simply because they can't offer, or someone based on their internet knowledge.

RB is a brake company that always offers a "Balanced" brake setup - Front and rear. Our expertise including the correction to OE's brake bias for track applications (eg. Dodge Viper, BMW M3/M4 etc.). CCB is a new technology that we are confident that Plaid owners should be very happy with them just like those Model S and M3 owners who installed our CCB kits.

All our brake kits are designed and built to the highest industrial standards in material and workmanship, and we expect them to perform as expected. However please understand that we only offer the hard parts, user's installation and usage on other associated accessories can result differently especially for entry level track applications, but if you ever run into issues we are here to help.

Thank you all.

 

[RB_PB]

Complete CCB offer for Plaid:

CARBON CERAMIC BRAKE - SELECT VEHICLE - ROTOR & SYSTEM - TESLA - MODEL S: PLAID - LR (2021+) - RB Performance Brakes

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• RB-C1 Stock replacement (380/365): RB CCB (380x32/365x28) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R45 & 2R46) - Fit OE Calipers
• RB-C2 OE caliper BBK (390/390): RB CCB BBK (390/390) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R47 & 2R16) - Fit OE Calipers
• EB-C3 BBK (420/410):RB CCB System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)

Economy Retrofit Kits (w/Corvette/Z28 CCM discs):

• E-C1 Front (390x36) ZR1 kit: RB CCB BBK (390x36) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front (Incl. Corvette ZR1 6 pot Calipers)
• E-C2 Front (390x32) Z28 kit:RB CCB (390x32) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front (Fit OE 4 Pot Calipers)

All kits are made for an easy bolt on installation except E-C2 (OE caliper kit) which requires to flatten out the hump on the dust shield to avoid interference.

We make CCB brakes affordable and available to all Plaid owners so you can enjoy the newest brake technology w/o having to break your bank or the hassle of DIY.

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WE DON'T JUST MAKE IT FIT, WE MAKE IT TO PERFORM!​

 

[RB_PB]

About this ZR1 (394x36mm) retrofit kit:

• E-C1 Front (390x36) ZR1 kit: RB CCB BBK (390x36) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front (Incl. Corvette ZR1 6 pot Calipers)

Quite a few Plaid owners inquired about this kit and asked why we don't offer DIY kit like for M3 and standard S.

Here is our reply:

Plaid is very different from other models in acceleration, HP, and weight. As such we must take a more cautious approach in offering the kit for DIYers just for the responsibility and liability concerns.​

Please read our warning/disclaimer under description, and if you know someone wants to be our dealer, then we can train them how to build the kits and you can work with them for your needs.​

https://racingbrake.com/2r50-zr1​

Anyone interested in this kit should read the description:

Warning & Disclaimer:​

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This retrofit kit is not a "Direct Caliper Mount" installation like standard S and M3 kits we offer, and requires an extended adaptor to make the kit fits OE upright. Note this 3D is used for illustration purpose and may not represent the actual part.​

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This kit is not recommended for any heavy tracking applications than street and spirited driving, customers purchase this kit for track applications is solely at their own risks.​

 

[Trompazo]

About this ZR1 (394x36mm) retrofit kit:

• E-C1 Front (394x36) ZR1 kit: RB CCB BBK (394x36) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front (Incl. Corvette ZR1 6 pot Calipers)

Quite a few Plaid owners inquired about this kit and asked why we don't offer DIY kit like for M3 and standard S.

Here is our reply:

Plaid is very different from other models in acceleration, HP, and weight. As such we must take a more cautious approach in offering the kit for DIYers just for the responsibility and liability concerns.​

Please read our warning/disclaimer under description, and if you know someone wants to be our dealer, then we can train them how to build the kits and you can work with them for your needs.​

https://racingbrake.com/2r50-zr1​

Anyone interested in this kit should read the description:

Warning & Disclaimer:​

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This retrofit kit is not a "Direct Caliper Mount" installation like standard S and M3 kits we offer, and requires an extended adaptor to make the kit fits OE upright.​

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This kit is not recommended for any heavy tracking applications than street and spirited driving, customers purchase this kit for track applications is solely at their own risks.​

Thanks.

What is different about this caliper spacer, and all the other options with 390 mm discs?

They will have caliper spacers too and are not direct fits. Most BBKs have spacers.

This set up sounds attractive based on the following:

1. 36mm wide rotors.
2. Rotors off a GM vehicle which are widely available and relatively cheap compared to all other carbon options.
3. Brembo 6 pot calipers off a Z06/ZR1.

However, the statement that this package is not recommended for driving the car hard is concerning.

Technically speaking, the rotors are bigger than your other options that retain the factory caliper. And the factory caliper is 4 pot versus 6 pot.

So what makes this package risky to drive on a track compared to your are cheaper options that also have a spacer? And why make this disclaimer on this kit, but not all the other kits that use a spacer with the OEM caliper?

 

[FlatSix911]

Complete CCB offer for Plaid:

CARBON CERAMIC BRAKE - SELECT VEHICLE - ROTOR & SYSTEM - TESLA - MODEL S: PLAID - LR (2021+) - RB Performance Brakes

racingbrake.com

• RB-C1 Stock replacement (380/365): RB CCB (380x32/365x28) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R45 & 2R46) - Fit OE Calipers
• RB-C2 OE caliper BBK (390/390): RB CCB BBK (390/390) for Tesla Plaid & LR Upgrade (PN 2R47 & 2R16) - Fit OE Calipers
• EB-C3 BBK (420/410):RB CCB System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)

Economy Retrofit Kits (w/Corvette/Z28 CCM discs):

• E-C1 Front (394x36) ZR1 kit: RB CCB BBK (394x36) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front (Incl. Corvette ZR1 6 pot Calipers)
• E-C2 Front (390x32) Z28 kit:RB CCB (390x32) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front (Fit OE 4 Pot Calipers)

All kits are made for an easy bolt on installation except E-C2 (OE caliper kit) which requires to flatten out the hump on the dust shield to avoid interference.
We make CCB brakes affordable and available to all Plaid owners so you can enjoy the newest brake technology w/o having to break your bank or the hassle of DIY.

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WE DON'T JUST MAKE IT FIT, WE MAKE IT TO PERFORM!​

Thanks for posting the details. It looks like your RB CCB System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid is $3,000 cheaper and has larger rotors than the Tesla kit.

Carbon Ceramic Brake System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)

Carbon Ceramic Brake System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)

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[oktane]

Thanks for posting the details. It looks like your RB CCB System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid is $3,000 cheaper and has larger rotors than the Tesla kit.

Carbon Ceramic Brake System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)

Carbon Ceramic Brake System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid & LR Front & Rear (P/N 2R44-K & 2R49-K)

racingbrake.com

But is bigger always better?

 

[FlatSix911]

But is bigger always better?

With high-performance brakes, yes.

 

[kgoroway]

Thanks for posting the details. It looks like your RB CCB System Kit (420/410) for Tesla Plaid is $3,000 cheaper and has larger rotors than the Tesla kit.

But the Tesla kit includes a rear caliper (4 piston) instead of reusing the stock caliper (1 piston). That has to account for some of the $3000 difference.