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The activity in the footwell was to update the GPS firmware to correct the date, which involves connecting the update cable I made to one of the cables that normally connect to the VMS. That's unrelated to the brake light mod, of course, but we did both in the same visit. Fortunately we don't need to update the firmware again for another 19 years.

Oh yeah, the GPS fix. Completely forgot about that!
 
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Devastating to see this, but most importantly, I am very glad to hear you are walking away relatively unharmed.

After seeing Medlock & Sons turn a pile of crunched parts into a functioning vehicle again, I have zero doubt that 1038 will live once again in the future. That is a very special car and only one of six like it.
 
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List of 'deceased' Roadsters from Gruber:

Country State City VIN Year Color Production Batt Size New Battery Disposition
USA FL Mary Esther 27 2008 Twilight Blue Founders Series Lost-Fire
Finland 28 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA CA Fairfield 75 2008 Signature 100 Lost-Parts
USA MD 121 Glacier Blue Lost-Collission
USA CA Beverly Hills 139 2008 Obsidian Black 80 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA NM Albuquerque 141 2008 Thunder Gray Lost-Fire
Usa CO 150 2008 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA CA 182 Orange Lost-Collission
USA PA Lebanon 227 2008 Twilight Blue Premium Lost-Fire
USA CA Yucaipa 231 2008 Thunder Gray 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA MA 249 Thunder Gray Lost-Parts
USA CA 254 Lost-Collission
USA CO Arvada 265 2008 Twilight Blue 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA NH Seabrook 284 2008 Lost-Collission
USA CA 284 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA WY 301 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA WY 301 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA MD 301 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA CA 389 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 393 2008 Arctic White Lost-Fire
USA CA 394 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
USA CA 396 Gray Lost-Collission
USA GA Atlanta 423 2008 Sterling Silver 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA SC Greer 430 2008 Yellow Lost-Fire
USA AZ Phoenix 464 2008 Black Lost-Fire
USA FL 469 Green Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 501 2010 Very Orange Lost-Parts
USA CA Sherman Oaks 516 2010 Electric Blue 53 kWh Lost-Fire
USA 521 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
USA Hung 524 Lost-Collission
USA CA Los Angeles 540 2010 Glacier Blue Lost-Fire
USA AZ Phoenix 545 2010 Twilight Blue Lost-Fire
USA AZ Phoenix 556 2010 Twilight Blue 53 kWh Lost-Fire
USA CA 556 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
Usa IL 556 2009 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 581 2010 Twilight Blue Lost-Fire
USA TX Houston 620 2010 Sterling Silver 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA CA Ontario 666 2010 Very Orange 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA VA 681 Arctic White Lost-Collission
USA 699 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA CA Martinez 715 2009 Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 781 Radiant Red Lost-Fire
USA CA 807 Sterling Silver Lost-Collission
USA NY 839 Sterling Silver Lost-Collission
USA NC Conover 853 2010 Black 53 kWh Lost-Fire
USA NY Clarence 925 2010 Radiant Red 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
Usa CA Sacramento 933 2010 Glacier Blue Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 948 Sterling Silver Lost-Fire
Usa CA 961 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa CA 961 2010 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
Usa NY 966 Lost-Collission
Usa NY Long Island 966 2010 Arctic White Lost-Collission
USA TN Brentwood 985 2010 Sterling Silver Lost-Fire
Usa 994 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
Usa 994 2010 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
Usa MD 1007 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA NC Pittsboro 1048 2010 Radiant Red Lost-Fire
USA FL Fort Pierce 1049 2010 Glacier Blue Lost-Fire
Usa 1056 Obsidian Black Lost-Collission
Usa CA 1085 Lightning Green Lost-Collission
Usa FL Miami 1085 Lighting Green Lost-Collission
Usa FL 1099 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa WA 1124 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa NV Reno 1129 Black Lost-Collission
Usa MA 1129 Obsidian Black Lost-Collission
Usa CA 1133 Orange Lost-Collission
Usa FL Miami 1133 2010 Very Orange Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1153 Pearl Custom Lost-Fire
USA CA Rancho Santa Margarita 1157 2010 Thunder Gray 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
Usa FL 1160 Obsidian Black Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1181 2011 Arctic White Lost-Fire
USA OH Englewood 1196 2011 Thunder Gray 80 kWh Lost-Fire
Usa 1207 Lightning Green Lost-Collission
USA NC Lewisville 1216 2011 Lightning Green Lost-Fire
USA AZ Yuma 1219 2011 Electric Blue Lost-Fire
Usa AK 1237 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa 1237 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1274 Lightning Green Lost-Fire
USA CA Oakland 1311 2011 Jet Black 53 kWh Lost-Fire
Usa 1324 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1328 Lightning Green Lost-Fire
Usa TX 1400 Arctic White Lost-Collission
Usa 1412 Glacier Blue Lost-Collission
Usa FL Miami 1446 Chrome Lost-Collission
USA PA Feasterville Trevose 1448 2011 Arctic White Lost-Fire
 
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Based on that list, it looks like 34 Roadsters perished from Gruber Fires. I presume that includes both fires.
Yes; 6 in the 2017 fire, 28 in the latest, if we assume all the “Fire” cars in that registry are from the Gruber fires and not other incidents.

The 10 cars now known to have burned that weren’t already suspected are 139, 141, 231, 556, 781, 853, 985, 1048, 1311, and 1448.

Their registry also confirms the previously suspected losses of 430, 620, 925, 1216, and 1219.

If their entries are accurate, 1125 and 1211 appear to have survived by having been parked outside at the time of the fire.

Below are all the fire cars, with newly-known cars from the Gruber registry marked with a +.

27 Twilight Blue
+139 Obsidian Black
+141 Thunder Gray
227 Twilight Blue
+231 Thunder Gray
265 Twilight Blue
393 Arctic White
423 Sterling Silver
430 Brilliant Yellow
464 Black
516 Electric Blue
540 Glacier Blue
545 Twilight Blue
+556 Twilight Blue
581 Twilight Blue
620 Sterling Silver
666 Very Orange
715 Radiant Red (2017 Fire)
+781 Radiant Red
+853 Black
925 Radiant Red
948 Sterling Silver (2017 Fire)
+985 Sterling Silver
+1048 Radiant Red
1049 Glacier Blue
1153 Pearl White Custom (2017 Fire)
1157 Thunder Gray
1181 Arctic White (2017 Fire)
1196 Thunder Gray
1216 Lightning Green
1219 Electric Blue
1274 Lightning Green (2017 Fire)
+1311 Jet Black
1328 Lightning Green (2017 Fire)
+1448 Arctic White

For some reason 715 is marked as “Collission” (sic) on their registry; my notes have it as having burned in the 2017 fire - it’s possible it wasn’t fully repaired at the time of the fire, which would account for the discrepancy.

It would be nice if the registry noted that the burnt Roadsters were the result of building fires, and didn’t just spontaneously combust - might save some confusion and/or EV FUD-mongering down the line. These cars ain’t Bolts!
 
Has anyone put together a tally of all Roadsters permanently lost to get some idea of numbers remaining?
In the UK we have the website "How many left" that uses registration and SORN (Statutary Off Road Notifcation) data, see below for Roadster data here -
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VIN: 5YJRE11B881V00027 (VP27)
Odometer: 117,013 mi
Last Seen: Dec 2021 at Insurance Auto Auctions in Concord, NC
Status: "Auction not assigned" and "Not Ready for Sale"
Note: Seems to still be very much intact minus the front/right damage. @chronopublish's former car. Previously mentioned here and here. This is an extremely rare Validation Prototype and must be saved!

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List of 'deceased' Roadsters from Gruber:

Country State City VIN Year Color Production Batt Size New Battery Disposition
USA FL Mary Esther 27 2008 Twilight Blue Founders Series Lost-Fire
Finland 28 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA CA Fairfield 75 2008 Signature 100 Lost-Parts
USA MD 121 Glacier Blue Lost-Collission
USA CA Beverly Hills 139 2008 Obsidian Black 80 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA NM Albuquerque 141 2008 Thunder Gray Lost-Fire
Usa CO 150 2008 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA CA 182 Orange Lost-Collission
USA PA Lebanon 227 2008 Twilight Blue Premium Lost-Fire
USA CA Yucaipa 231 2008 Thunder Gray 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA MA 249 Thunder Gray Lost-Parts
USA CA 254 Lost-Collission
USA CO Arvada 265 2008 Twilight Blue 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA NH Seabrook 284 2008 Lost-Collission
USA CA 284 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA WY 301 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA WY 301 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA MD 301 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA CA 389 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 393 2008 Arctic White Lost-Fire
USA CA 394 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
USA CA 396 Gray Lost-Collission
USA GA Atlanta 423 2008 Sterling Silver 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA SC Greer 430 2008 Yellow Lost-Fire
USA AZ Phoenix 464 2008 Black Lost-Fire
USA FL 469 Green Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 501 2010 Very Orange Lost-Parts
USA CA Sherman Oaks 516 2010 Electric Blue 53 kWh Lost-Fire
USA 521 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
USA Hung 524 Lost-Collission
USA CA Los Angeles 540 2010 Glacier Blue Lost-Fire
USA AZ Phoenix 545 2010 Twilight Blue Lost-Fire
USA AZ Phoenix 556 2010 Twilight Blue 53 kWh Lost-Fire
USA CA 556 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
Usa IL 556 2009 Twilight Blue Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 581 2010 Twilight Blue Lost-Fire
USA TX Houston 620 2010 Sterling Silver 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA CA Ontario 666 2010 Very Orange 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
USA VA 681 Arctic White Lost-Collission
USA 699 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA CA Martinez 715 2009 Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 781 Radiant Red Lost-Fire
USA CA 807 Sterling Silver Lost-Collission
USA NY 839 Sterling Silver Lost-Collission
USA NC Conover 853 2010 Black 53 kWh Lost-Fire
USA NY Clarence 925 2010 Radiant Red 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
Usa CA Sacramento 933 2010 Glacier Blue Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 948 Sterling Silver Lost-Fire
Usa CA 961 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa CA 961 2010 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
Usa NY 966 Lost-Collission
Usa NY Long Island 966 2010 Arctic White Lost-Collission
USA TN Brentwood 985 2010 Sterling Silver Lost-Fire
Usa 994 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
Usa 994 2010 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
Usa MD 1007 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA NC Pittsboro 1048 2010 Radiant Red Lost-Fire
USA FL Fort Pierce 1049 2010 Glacier Blue Lost-Fire
Usa 1056 Obsidian Black Lost-Collission
Usa CA 1085 Lightning Green Lost-Collission
Usa FL Miami 1085 Lighting Green Lost-Collission
Usa FL 1099 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa WA 1124 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa NV Reno 1129 Black Lost-Collission
Usa MA 1129 Obsidian Black Lost-Collission
Usa CA 1133 Orange Lost-Collission
Usa FL Miami 1133 2010 Very Orange Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1153 Pearl Custom Lost-Fire
USA CA Rancho Santa Margarita 1157 2010 Thunder Gray 53 kWh In Queue Lost-Fire
Usa FL 1160 Obsidian Black Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1181 2011 Arctic White Lost-Fire
USA OH Englewood 1196 2011 Thunder Gray 80 kWh Lost-Fire
Usa 1207 Lightning Green Lost-Collission
USA NC Lewisville 1216 2011 Lightning Green Lost-Fire
USA AZ Yuma 1219 2011 Electric Blue Lost-Fire
Usa AK 1237 Radiant Red Lost-Collission
Usa 1237 Fusion Red Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1274 Lightning Green Lost-Fire
USA CA Oakland 1311 2011 Jet Black 53 kWh Lost-Fire
Usa 1324 Thunder Gray Lost-Collission
USA AZ Phoenix 1328 Lightning Green Lost-Fire
Usa TX 1400 Arctic White Lost-Collission
Usa 1412 Glacier Blue Lost-Collission
Usa FL Miami 1446 Chrome Lost-Collission
USA PA Feasterville Trevose 1448 2011 Arctic White Lost-Fire
This is a very comprehensive list. For our list, we have saved dozens and destroyed zero.

Rebuilding is going to be a challenge when he's burned up a dozen or more parts cars also.

We will retain the parts supply we have so we can stay in business and repair/restore/rehabilitate dozens more in 2022.
 
This is a very comprehensive list. For our list, we have saved dozens and destroyed zero.

Rebuilding is going to be a challenge when he's burned up a dozen or more parts cars also.

We will retain the parts supply we have so we can stay in business and repair/restore/rehabilitate dozens more in 2022.
Just fyi
Not all of the roadsters on this list are from Gruber's fires. If you look a good number of these are due to collisions or other reasons. This list came from a database Gruber is collecting.
 
Just fyi
Not all of the roadsters on this list are from Gruber's fires. If you look a good number of these are due to collisions or other reasons. This list came from a database Gruber is collecting.
Who said they were all from Gruber's fires? No one. He had a good head start in collecting the list since many were in his buildings when the loss occurred.
 
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Who said they were all from Gruber's fires? No one. He had a good head start in collecting the list since many were in his buildings when the loss occurred.
Well Carl was making it seem like all these cars are from Gruber when he said:
This is a very comprehensive list. For our list, we have saved dozens and destroyed zero.
So I was simply pointing out that this isn't the "cars Gruber has saved/destroyed" list but simply a wrecked roadster registry they've created which after all is the point of this thread...
 
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VIN: 5YJRE11B881V00027 (VP27)
Odometer: 117,013 mi
Last Seen: Dec 2021 at Insurance Auto Auctions in Concord, NC
Status: "Auction not assigned" and "Not Ready for Sale"
Note: Seems to still be very much intact minus the front/right damage. @chronopublish's former car. Previously mentioned here and here. This is an extremely rare Validation Prototype and must be saved!

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Wow, I had this car for 11 years and this happens barely over a year after I sold it. Absolute tragedy.