I’ve never heard them called “Yokes” before. DD size 38 !I just love how my yoke, both of them, feel in my hands.
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I’ve never heard them called “Yokes” before. DD size 38 !I just love how my yoke, both of them, feel in my hands.
Oh, uh, not those yokes.I’ve never heard them called “Yokes” before. DD size 38 !
I know mini vans are practical. I’ve had towing needs forever and minivans are generally not as good as SUV’s. Nor are they as good in rough terrain (deep snow). Jeeps filled my needs for decades. The X filled my need just as well. We’ll see how the S does. Both the Model 3 was pretty horrible in snow (with snow tires). Y has the same issue. Both are rear biased. S/X pre-refresh are front biased. Not sure how S/X Refresh will do. I hope they didn’t copy that from model 3/Y too. I’m concerned with clearance on the Model S, X was great on that.No one wants to get a minivan and everyone hates them until they have one. Then they're just so danged practical that you can't give it up. Now that we have our MY the Odyssey is in semi-retirement, spending most of her time in the garage. The MY has a ton of storage space and is an incredibly practical car. It can even fit our daughter's harp! Glad your S is working for you!
1- How can it function BETTER than a round wheel when you can place your hands in the exact position with a round wheel? At best it’s a tie, in reality the yoke is worse.Here are some of the reasons that 110% of the users love the yoke when used correctly. The anti-yokers will not agree because it does not fit their narrative but for 42k miles in 18 states and thousands of roundabouts, 3pt turns, parallel parking, emergency maneuvers, etc, I have not hit or near hit one thing. It has been relaxing, uneventful, and safe. If it would tear it up too much, I would take this on an EVOC course.
1) Functions better than a round wheel. Safer - hands in a safer position.
2) Buttons in always the same location. When gripping the yoke, the buttons are always at your thumbs beckon call,
3) Visibility. Not just the objective side where there is definitely a unobstructed view (for me for the first time in a car) but the subjective side of the feeling of the openness.
4) You can make cool airplane sounds when using it.
5) Starbucks drive-thru employees think is is cool
6) I can tell which way the wheels are pointed with my eyes closed.
Horn could be better but that will come (eventually). I put those epoxy buttons on it and that did help with the horn. I would be okay if it had stalks but am fine without.
Basically a nothingburger and some people just need to tear their robes and cannot be happy until everyone is not happy. Those who do not like are fine and it is their car - do what you want. Just let some of us enjoy the car without you being militant that we must be fanboys, koolaid drinkers, deniers, crazy, etc. Take your meds and let us enjoy our yokes.
Last time I drove a car with stalks, I could swear the stalks didn’t move relative to my hands as I turned the wheel. With the Yoke they do. He wasn’t referring to the radio buttons.1- How can it function BETTER than a round wheel when you can place your hands in the exact position with a round wheel? At best it’s a tie, in reality the yoke is worse.
2- Buttons on the round wheel are also always in the same position- which steering wheel did you have that had moving buttons?
3- Visibility, yes this is better.
4- You can make any sound you want with a round wheel.
5- Starbucks? Well that explains why you like the inferior yoke… jk, I’d kill for a strawberry Açaí lemonade on a hot day. Literally speaking of course.
6- You can tell which way the wheels are pointed with a round wheel as well, it has a top and bottom just like a yoke. But also why you driving with your eyes closed?
The look is absolutely one of the reasons I love the Yoke, yes some may be nostalgia as I too think of Knight Rider, but ultimately, for me, its just as functional as a round wheel for my driving style and I love having improved visibility into the driver screen.Candidly, it reminds me of KIT from “Night Rider”. Finally, the main reason I do not like the yoke is because that is not how a hold my normal steering wheel (9 and 3), but rather I rest my arm in my lap and gently grip the steering wheel from the bottom, which one evidently cannot do with a yoke.
Thanks for the intentional thoughts, man. For whatever reason, I’m getting some hate from trolls for my post. I’m seeking intelligent conversation on this topic. Thanks again for your insights!The look is absolutely one of the reasons I love the Yoke, yes some may be nostalgia as I too think of Knight Rider, but ultimately, for me, its just as functional as a round wheel for my driving style and I love having improved visibility into the driver screen.
Not just a Tesla talking point, for where I have my steering wheels / yoke positioned, this is a huge improvement.
Yes, you can rest your arm on your leg and grip from the bottom, this is my preferred interstate driving position and it works fine. I was worried about that before I got it, but have no issue at all.
Resting one hand on the bottom while your arm is on the armrest is the perfect FSD Beta position in the yoke.I’m curious to hear from some “yoke lovers” what you all like about it. I understand the “why” behind it, from TESLA’s perspective (a round steering wheel would otherwise impede the driver’s view of the driver’s screen behind the steering wheel). Still, I find it ugly; although, admittedly, I have never driven a vehicle with a yoke. While I’m sure I would eventually get used to it, I would rather opt NOT to have a yoke, even though the yoke is not optional. Candidly, it reminds me of KIT from “Night Rider”. Finally, the main reason I do not like the yoke is because that is not how a hold my normal steering wheel (9 and 3), but rather I rest my arm in my lap and gently grip the steering wheel from the bottom, which one evidently cannot do with a yoke.
I hold a CyberTruck reservation, and I am hoping that the CyberTruck will NOT come equipped with a yoke steering wheel, although I fear that it just might—considering that the CyberTruck prototype boasts a yoke steering wheel. I am hoping to get a Model Y before they change that to a yoke steering wheel.
I was really surprised to see so much hate for the gear shifting slide as well....-I LOVE the stalkless gear shifter (not completely Yoke related, but it's awesome and easy).
My whole thing with going stalkless is that TESLA should wait until it’s time to remove the pedals and steering wheel as well before going stalkless. Removing the stalk is lame. I fully get Elon’s whole “ultimately, all user input is error”.I was really surprised to see so much hate for the gear shifting slide as well....
I can understand the issues many have with the blinkers and horn, but what's not to like about the gear shifting? I find it quick and easy.
Still though, we all have opinions, so its ok that others don't like that either, I was just truly surprised.
Now the auto shift out of park makes the wrong choice more often than I think it should but the gear shifting is easy.
I can assure you, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that the yoke is 100% perfectly fine on Mulholland. I have put some series hurt on some really nice cars there when I had my MSP. Now with the MXP the person in the other car better be good...like really good, to put any distance on it.Obviously, I'm opening myself to some juvenile comments, but I still have to ask -- how is the yoke a safe wheel? Where I live, I drive mountain roads with tight-but-fast corners. I've always driven corners with hands at quarter-to-three, never crossing my wrists over under any circumstances, but passing the wheel along in my hands, and this is what feels safe. Has Tesla adjusted the ratio so that less circular motion is needed for a given radius of turn? Because if not, I see no way to navigate Mulholland Drive with a yoke without crossing my arms over one another. I'm not a hater, so please, guys...can I get a rational response? We're thinking of moving on from our wonderful 2016S to a new one and this is a big deal to me.
That's good to know, but lacking in detail. I get that you're a hot driver, but how do you make a tight turn at speed without crossing your arms over?I can assure you, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that the yoke is 100% perfectly fine on Mulholland. I have put some series hurt on some really nice cars there when I had my MSP. Now with the MXP the person in the other car better be good...like really good, to put any distance on it.