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Or fiddly door handles, or a backseat where my head hits the glass, or steering wheels for that matter. I think they'll make entirely different vehicles for the robotaxis. Tesla might be able to sell lease returns for more than the residuals (which are very low) so they're keeping their options openOk, then why does an autonomous taxi need such impressive performance?
Texas (and many other states) allow FSD. New law clears the way for driverless cars on Texas roadsI believe he will change his mind on all of them. FSD will not be ready in 3 years. Even if tesla achieves FSD,the laws wont let him have driverless cars.
It's something I've found funny about both Tesla and their fans
"It's gonna be robotaxis here, there, everywhere! Got FSD? Robotaxi!"
Ok, then why does an autonomous taxi need such impressive performance? Even the SR+ RWD has significantly more power than needed or desired for a taxi service. Similar statement to "Why don't you only use AutoPilot, it's the point of the car!". Well, no, it's actually quite competent at performance and handling as well. The car has many points, not just FSD!
Tesla adds the tax incentive to the residual value of the car. This is not as good as reducing the cap cost, but it does lower the payment. If you purchase the vehicle at the end of lease, you are giving Tesla the tax incentive, plus the interest you paid on it.I realize also there's no federal tax incentive when leasing so that $1875 should be factored in the purchase price.
I wonder how strict/difficult Tesla will be with lease returns. I mean, their customer service can be questionable at times, and the fact they have access to your driving logs it's possible they may say "you drive rather aggressively, how do we know you haven't dogged this thing?" I've wondered this because it's truly the first car where everything can be monitored...I'm still on the fence, lease vs buy since my order has not yet arrived, but scheduled for a Sept delivery. I realize also there's no federal tax incentive when leasing so that $1875 should be factored in the purchase price.
The $ involvement in leasing sure looks good, better than buying tho + if the car is problematic, it's nice to know that when leasing is up, I'll just hand back the 2 cards!! On the other hand if there are no issues, I'd gladly exercise the option to buy. Sadly, there's no option!! It sucks.
I did not get any incentive such as Supercharging...(yet) to close by Sept 30 to make Elon's Q3 #s look good. I don't know if they will.
There may be a big push to increase Q4 #s, so, they may very well incentivize with free Supercharging sometime in Q4, maybe after Thanksgiving.
I could hold off getting the M3P- this September and upgrade to the M3P and take delivery in December for a little over $3k with Supercharging
Thoughts?
Does anyone have a crystal ball?
Anyone clairvoyant?
Maybe someone with excellent marketing background?
If lessee has MP3 or dual motor, it may not be prudent to use these for "taxis"!!
I gave a ride to a guy at a recent National Drive Electric Week event. He was positively drooling for a Model 3. It was clear he would already be driving one if Tesla's lease allowed for purchase at the end. But he doesn't feel he can afford to buy the car new, and he doesn't want to think he's tossing away three years of lease payments with no chance of anything to show for it at the end. So there's one missed sale for that guy.
I'm still on the fence, lease vs buy since my order has not yet arrived, but scheduled for a Sept delivery. I realize also there's no federal tax incentive when leasing so that $1875 should be factored in the purchase price.
The $ involvement in leasing sure looks good, better than buying tho + if the car is problematic, it's nice to know that when leasing is up, I'll just hand back the 2 cards!! On the other hand if there are no issues, I'd gladly exercise the option to buy. Sadly, there's no option!! It sucks.
I did not get any incentive such as Supercharging...(yet) to close by Sept 30 to make Elon's Q3 #s look good. I don't know if they will.
There may be a big push to increase Q4 #s, so, they may very well incentivize with free Supercharging sometime in Q4, maybe after Thanksgiving.
I could hold off getting the M3P- this September and upgrade to the M3P and take delivery in December for a little over $3k with Supercharging
Thoughts?
Does anyone have a crystal ball?
Anyone clairvoyant?
Maybe someone with excellent marketing background?
I gave a ride to a guy at a recent National Drive Electric Week event. He was positively drooling for a Model 3. It was clear he would already be driving one if Tesla's lease allowed for purchase at the end. But he doesn't feel he can afford to buy the car new, and he doesn't want to think he's tossing away three years of lease payments with no chance of anything to show for it at the end. So there's one missed sale for that guy.
I wonder how strict/difficult Tesla will be with lease returns. I mean, their customer service can be questionable at times, and the fact they have access to your driving logs it's possible they may say "you drive rather aggressively, how do we know you haven't dogged this thing?" I've wondered this because it's truly the first car where everything can be monitored...
Obviously it's in their best interest not to make life difficult for lease returns, as word will spread quick.Yes, my sentiments exactly. Plus, if Tesla sells insurance, they have a direct pipeline to a driver's record, not 100%, unless they have a camera in the car where the speed exceed the roads speed limit by say 20+ mph. Big brother Tesla ah watching you bro.
Yes, 3 years of lease payment is analogous to 3 years of renting.
Now, if the down payment to buy + higher monthly payment invested in the stock market and the returns substantial then it would make sense to lease, then use the proceeds to buy later, by then there should be significant improvements such as 0-60 in the 2.6-2.9secs...and the M3 may have a better build quality. Hmmm, I may be talking myself into this.