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Thinking of making a Ford Lightning reservation... you better read this before you make my mistake!
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How much range have you lost? Don’t you have an lifetime battery warranty? If your range drops below 70% you should be able to at least get a refurbished replacement, right? You appear to have a long history of dissatisfaction dating back to before you even took possession.
Finally got my refund. Funny but they really didn't want to know why I was cancelling. No way to explain the market adjustment thing. Oh well.
Amazing how many folks still think it's ok to bait and switch on prices. I certainly don't hate others that don't care, that's their business. I don't play that sugar. We'll see how folks feel when the actual mark ups start to show up. Interesting that folks want to justify their decision that they'd pay more. I really don't care what you do with your $, after it's your $. I just choose not to. I've never paid over MSRP. Nothing is worth that to me.
Amazing how many folks still think it's ok to bait and switch on prices. I certainly don't hate others that don't care, that's their business. I don't play that sugar. We'll see how folks feel when the actual mark ups start to show up. Interesting that folks want to justify their decision that they'd pay more. I really don't care what you do with your $, after it's your $. I just choose not to. I've never paid over MSRP. Nothing is worth that to me.
Skotty
2014 S P85 | 2023 F-150L
I'm getting about 195 miles on my 2014 P85 charged to 80%. I think the 100% is about 235. How's yours doing? Would like to get one of the longer range P100Ds someday, but I would also miss the large frunk, pano roof, and being grandfathered into free connectivity and free supercharging. I can get range anxiety with this range; would really need 350+ to feel comfortable with the range.
popgodazipa
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It’s going to be wildly popular with or without markups. F-150s fully loaded with all of the different “editions” are stuffed full of all sorts of crazy mark ups and they STILL can’t keep them on the lot.
This isn’t a flex for Ford. They aren’t just trying the EV market out with the F-150….they know they have to nail it with this one..the brand demands it.
strider
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I didn't have a relationship with any dealer so I picked the one w/ least annoying radio ads 
. In my back and forth with the Internet Sales person there, they didn't say anything about doing market adjustments but didn't say that they wouldn't do it either. I also will not pay over MSRP so we will see what happens when orders are actually finalized.
But just to be fair, the language in the reservation FAQ about not guaranteeing a price is also in Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, etc reservation language. Prices are not finalized until you order.
. In my back and forth with the Internet Sales person there, they didn't say anything about doing market adjustments but didn't say that they wouldn't do it either. I also will not pay over MSRP so we will see what happens when orders are actually finalized. But just to be fair, the language in the reservation FAQ about not guaranteeing a price is also in Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, etc reservation language. Prices are not finalized until you order.
Well considering the ICE version can already provide power like it did in Texas, I think they will also deliver on that end. Range is was has me the most curious especially with all these numbers being thrown out
Just finished watching this and I'm so impressed. Sure sounds like they nailed it. Of course the devil is in the details, e.g. OTA updates. VW and Porsche promised but has had nothing but problems. At this time it just doesn't work. Still I like the Lightning... on paper. And I won't pay a dollar over MSRP so it will probable be a few years (maybe never) before I could buy one. The range is a big deal also. Still want to hear what actual owners are getting. He never mentioned how the towing affected range. Just that it was killer
Sounds to me like you didn't do your diligence and probably had no intention of buying a Ford Lightning anyway...The fact that Ford is a dealership model and they aren't an "established EV manufacturer with a huge charging network..." was something pretty much everyone knew in advance. Now all of us who actually want a Lightning will have one fewer reservation ahead of us.
Yikes Ford is really shooting themselves in the foot. You can't take pre-orders without a real price. Avoiding the dealer is a decent portion of the appeal of Tesla IMO. I suppose the trade-off is that you will have dealer support when the thing catches on fire or bricks. Cybertruck definitely the way to go.
strider
Active Member
FWIW I confirmed with my dealer that I will pay MSRP so no worries of dealer markups here. Ford has as much of a "real price" as the CT. Like Ford, Tesla has not released any options package pricing yet. Further, if you read your reservation agreement, Tesla has not committed to a price for the CT. Will they most likely honor it? Yes, and I would say the same of Ford. No difference.
If you don't see a difference between a dealer-driven purchase and a direct purchase, you may want to stick with Tesla exclusively. That said, I expect Ford will pull a Tesla and only offer the most-expensive variant at first. Undoubtedly that will include undercoating and a primitive bolt-on alarm system.
strider
Active Member
If you don't see a difference between how the Tesla purchase experience has changed from 2011 to 2021, you may want to stick with dealers exclusively.
You might want to check out this thread: Our third Tesla and it seems customer service has gotten worse!?!?
There are many of these threads on here. At least with a dealer someone always answers the phone when I call (not true w/ Tesla - send an email or use the app? BS.). Also, if a dealer treats you poorly, you can go to a different one. That is not an option w/ Tesla.
Further, when was the last time you bought from a dealer? They have changed a lot in the last 10 years. They now routinely have internet salespeople so you can do all of your buying, selling, negotiating, etc online, just like Tesla (well, except for the negotiating part - that can be good or bad, depending on the direction of the negotiation
). When your car is ready you just sign some paperwork and drive off, just like Tesla.Also, Ford has said they are going to spread the initial deliveries across the different trim levels. Not sure what that means in reality though.
PS: Let me say, as I have said a number of times recently, that the front-line employees at Tesla have always busted their tails to do everything they possible can to make my experience great. But they are working with a system that is held together by duct tape and bailing wire and a CEO that doesn't give a damn about anything back office and will not invest in it.
Well with them only planning to make 15,000 in the first year, while there are 120,000+ reservations, I'm not sure it really matters much. The odds of getting one anytime soon are fairly slim.
