Thinking to buy 2019 Model S Performance

[FrenchUsa]

Hi guys,

I am thinking to buy 2019 S Performance, but wanted to get some advices of the forum.

I see in 2021 S been new refresh (yoke steering wheel, screen....) but they are hard to find and usually cost same to a new one.

My question: should I got with refresh S model or I will be fine with older model?

I currently have 2019 Model 3 LR and really enjoy the car!!

Thanks for help

 

[2101Guy]

NUMEROUS changes to the 2021+ refresh. Interior material quality is much improved, the cabin is noticeably quieter, the range improved, charging time is faster, power dropoff in acceleration isnt "peaky" like pre refresh..the power delivery stays consistent/at full power until well over 120mph, the rear end is wider, the headlights are now matrix, rear end lights are now different, the processor is faster. There is the rear screen

So there are notable improvements (im sure Im leaving out some) but up to you if its worth it...

 

[FrenchUsa]

wow that a lot of improvement, now you are me thinking about getting refresh.

 

[2101Guy]

I cant recall if 2019's had cooled front seats, but refreshes do..

 

[2101Guy]

storage space now in door pockets/sides of doors, wireless cell phone charging in front AND in rear...

 

[mswlogo]

NUMEROUS changes to the 2021+ refresh. Interior material quality is much improved, the cabin is noticeably quieter, the range improved, charging time is faster, power dropoff in acceleration isnt "peaky" like pre refresh..the power delivery stays consistent/at full power until well over 120mph, the rear end is wider, the headlights are now matrix, rear end lights are now different, the processor is faster. There is the rear screen

So there are notable improvements (im sure Im leaving out some) but up to you if its worth it...

I don’t notice any difference in material quality or build quality from 2019 X Raven to Model S Refresh. Late Raven S (2020) LR had about the same range as a Refresh S LR. Model X actually went down in range. Plaid did go up in range vs Performance though.

 

[2101Guy]

Also, numerous tests on YouTube show refresh doesn’t lose as much (any?) acceleration at lower states of charge as non refresh did

 

[fetar30310]

You'll miss out on some of the niceties on your 3 if you go with the 19 S, like:

• 250 kw Charging - the 19 S only supports up to 200kW (assuming you get a Raven)
• Phone key
• Door/center console storage
• Sentry camera on your phone
• Wireless phone charging (you need to buy a third party or Tesla OEM wireless charging add on)

 

[FrenchUsa]

You'll miss out on some of the niceties on your 3 if you go with the 19 S, like:

• 250 kw Charging - the 19 S only supports up to 200kW (assuming you get a Raven)
• Phone key
• Door/center console storage
• Sentry camera on your phone
• Wireless phone charging (you need to buy a third party or Tesla OEM wireless charging add on)

I thought about that too, very good point there!

 

[JCattSS]

Refresh 21’s have been popping up in the 95-99k range. Ravens aren’t much different. Hard to pass up the new “LR” unless you really like the old controls.
I had a P85D now a 21 M3P, kinda in the same boat. Really miss the S, and the refresh has some of the best features of my 3. Door pockets, better console, wireless charging pads, etc.
Really like the old controls though.

 

[fetar30310]

Refresh 21’s have been popping up in the 95-99k range.

Where?

 

[JCattSS]

Where?

Carmax has had a few, but they go quick. Several have popped up on Cargurus. A few on there have been for sale over a month at less than 100k, and not a lot of miles.

 

[2101Guy]

..refresh has the horizontal widescreen, better view viewing the streaming video content...

 

[FrenchUsa]

Just curious, is refresh model and previous model have same software?

 

[SilverGS]

Just curious, is refresh model and previous model have same software?

Definitely not. New motors, landscape orientation vs portrait etc

 

[FrenchUsa]

Thanks guys, I decided to pre-order Model S and keep my Model 3 until it is built!

 

[FrenchUsa]

Here it is my 2022 Model S

 

[koorosh]

Not sure how old OP is but after sitting in new 2022 model S, the pre-refresh interior really feels old and outdated.

Your model 3 is definitely more modern than onld model S.