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Discussion in 'Model 3' started by Matt L, Mar 1, 2019.

  1. CertLive

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    BMW = bad cars (reliability wise) and 90% bad drivers. A model 3 makes their blood boil as an SR+ minces 92% of their car lineup before the throttle is pushed. Half a ton of pistons doesn't do it anymore....
     
  2. DBV1

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    Totally inaccurate statement. I have two current BMW’s and have owned many before. Maybe, I am lucky and knock on wood, but have great luck on reliability. Also - bad drives, that is a bad statement too.

    I think BMW makes great cars and excited for the new EV next year!

    I also like Tesla’s too! :)
     
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    Agree with OP, and also think that the complaining and negativity makes it less fun to participate in forums like this one. Ignore list helps, but it's often new first time posters so that's only a partial solution.
     
  4. Brando

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    autonomous vehicles => transportation as a service => you may not need to purchase a vehicle that is parked most of the time.

    purchase transport as you need it OR use your vehicle as an income earning asset
     
  5. Brando

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    How much per year to own & insure & park ? Will assume operating costs (wash/wax/maintenance) in exchange for your transport.
    We all know that Tesla Stock at this point would have been a much better ROI.f
     
  6. carlosnunezdfw

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    nah, but i'll get that cybertruck tho
     
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    I just had two awesome rides to and from a gym much farther away from my apartment _because_ of Full Self Driving. I use this feature every day. Nothing on the market compares. I love not having to drive during the longest parts of my trip.
     
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    #148 Az_Rael, Jul 14, 2020
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    Well, hello there very old quote. Quick history lesson: when I posted that, there were zero FSD features released. Even as of today, there is still only 1 feature released and that is the traffic and stop sign beta thing, which I am not sure is worth the $3k. All the rest of the features are included in my $5k enhanced autopilot package. The only real benefit I have gotten for my $3k is the FSD computer upgrade, which I have come to terms with at this point.

    When you are looking at old posts, be aware that there are actually TWO FSD packages out there in Tesla land. The modern one, which I assume you are referring to, and the one I bought in 2017 which is an entirely different animal (and the one discussed in this thread). This thread was about the March 2019 “fire sale” when they lowered the price of FSD from $3k to $2k before they had released any FSD features to anyone.
     
  9. Brando

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    curious - your (old) FSD computer board will get replaced/upgraded (no additional cost) IF/When you pay up for full FSD software package - is that what you understand?
     
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    Yes, that is what I understand. I have heard one report of someone who was offered the chip upgrade only for $2k without the software, but that was most likely a YMMV service center thing.
     
  11. carlosnunezdfw

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    lol; I realized that I was responding to an old post after posting my response!
     
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