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Those “cheap tires” review

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Keith909man, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. SageCloud

    SageCloud New Member

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    We're 'all' driving the wrong tyres anyway. All major brands are coming with tyres developed specifically for EV's;

    Pirelli
    Continental
    Michelin
    Goodyear

    Anybody driving these yet?

    And now for the future;
     
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  2. Sunshine State

    Sunshine State Automotive Enthusiast

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    I’m glad I read this far down the comments. I was going to post virtually the same thing. If someone was truly concerned about stopping and handling they would be bad mouthing Tesla and many other car companies for building cars that put the general public at greater risk by building cars that don’t perform anywhere near as well as many mass market cars in terms of handling and stopping power.
     
  3. Sunshine State

    Sunshine State Automotive Enthusiast

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    Tire brand is not the only factor in stopping distance. There are many factors that add or subtract from braking efficiency. The Corvette stops quickly due to the advanced suspension design that prevents nose dive and thus has less weight transfer to the front and subsequent unloading of the rear tires. They also have very wide front tires to increase traction even during the minimized weight transfer. I believe that Tesla has virtually the same stopping distance even with the Goodyear 245/45R19 standard tires that are a much lower performance tire that the optional Michelin or Continental 245-265/35R21 rubber.
     
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    Wouldn't the acceleration be affected as well if the braking distance is affected?
     
  5. Sunshine State

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    #45 Sunshine State, Apr 27, 2018
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    Acceleration would be affected and is affected by traction but the model S and X have virtually the same acceleration with the high performance 21”/22” tires as they have with the 19”/20” all season tires. There are many more important factors affecting the braking and acceleration performance than the tires that are equipped on cars. Not to be rude but most comments posted in this tread are from people that are just posting their uneducated opinions of what they have seen or read in tire advertising/propaganda. Yes braking can be affected by a tire with very low performance but replacement of a tire with a tire with an incredibly high level of performance would not improve improve braking unless the vehicle was limited by the existing tire performance. Tires legally sold in the US must meet DOT standards. Most of the performance difference in tires when installed on a non high performance cars are in ride noise, tread life, durability and fuel economy. Tesla builds "P” cars that are very fast cars but they are not cars built for handling and braking. The optional tires on Tesla’s cars are more for visual or perceived differences rather than a performance change. In full disclosure I have the big wheels and OEM tires on my Teslas and think they look much better.
     
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  6. Evil Twin

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    What you people refer to as a "crash" is what I call "RAMMING SPEED!"
     
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  7. Uncle Paul

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    Cheap asian tires have been around a long time. Usually offer good value, but not top tier performance nor weight capacity.
    Buyer needs to take lots of things into consideration, especially how they drive.

    Comparing a brand new full tread tire to a many year old, worn out OEM tire is not a fair comparison.

    Some tires are pretty quiet running when they are fresh and new, but howl like crazy when the tread gets worn down.
     
  8. LCR1

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    No one sells cars by advertising braking distances.
     
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    #49 Ericsch, May 8, 2018
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    Try doing some research on www.tirerack.com. There is objective data as well as subjective opinions from real verified owners of just about every tire out there. One caveat, though, take with a grain of salt any ratings on tires with less than a million owner miles on them - ratings generally slip lower when enough owners have racked up higher mile usage on a given tire. Good example - I decided to go with Kumho Solus TA71's for my S85. At the time, it was rated second in class after the Michelin, but only had 400K miles worth of owner ratings. Now, 2 years later, it has dropped to 5th place. First 5000 miles, I was in LOVE with them - grippier and quieter than the OEM Michelins - at HALF the price. BUT over the next 20,000 miles they became noisier and noisier to where they now sound like a Semi. Most of the noise is probably being generated by the inside tread row which has become over-worn and cupped due to the ridiculous (non-adjustable) rear camber. The OEM Michelins did NOT do this. Guess I'll go back to the TireRack ratings again when the Kumhos are done. Soon, I hope - I keep on looking in the rear-view for that Semi....
     
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    Sarcasm...

    Should consider any person buying a Model 3 irresponsible. Consumer Report shows M3 took 152 feet, on average, to come to a stop from 60 miles an hour. That was seven feet more than a Ford F-150 full-size truck needed, according to the magazine. It's about 20 feet longer than the average for other cars similar to the Model 3.
     
  11. mjmiron

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    Ericsch- how did your Kuhmo tires last on your S? I just bought some and Discount Tire told me recommended pressure was 36 and Tesla recommended 45 or the low pressure light would come on. Wondering if you air up to 45 and if your tires have lasted. Matt
     
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    Can't speak to the tires but can confirm the red exclamation point warning message comes on at 41 PSI saying "tire pressure very low, pull over now".
     
  13. Chaserr

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    Switch it to 21" on the TPMS reset screen and you can go down to 36PSI before it gives a warning. That's the only difference I have ever noticed.
     
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    Read the maximum tire pressure printed on the sidewall, you should always go by the car manufacturers tire pressure as long as it doesn’t exceed the max rating on the tire. That’s basic automotive 101
     
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    Thank you side wall said 50 so I will keep em inflated at 45. I also changed it rims to Drag DR-67 looks really nice and only weigh 1 lb more than stock 19”.
     
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    Here is pics of the rims
     
  17. RSchwanke

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    Hello, Where did you get these wheels and what size did you get? I found them here, but the seller is telling me they don't fit the car.

    I have an '18 Tesla Model 3 Mid-Range with 19" sport wheels now.

    Thanks!
     
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    Discount Tire they are 19's I sold that rig too.
     
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    I believe that was reduced to 133 ft with an OTA update.

    Consumer Reports reverses course and now recommends the Tesla Model 3
     
  20. Uncle Paul

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    The cheap, no name tires are best used by people returning a lease vehicle, or not wanting to sell a used car with bald tires.

    Not sure these would be my first choice for my personal driving car. To many unknowns.
     

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