Three Teslas for sale in Bellevue, WA

[DaveD]

Three for sale at Park Place Ltd., a Bellevue, WA exotic car dealer:

VIN 45, 113 miles, $99,950
VIN 357, 1172 miles, $79,950
VIN 553, 10,589 miles, $109,950

 

[TEG]

#45 has been for sale for a while now.

We saw #357 for sale before:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/4154-357-(Red)-for-sale-95K

Sport #553... Well, I know who that is. I wonder if he still plans to get a Model S...

 

[NEWDL]

#553? With as much track time (Drag) as this car has seen... and been attached to all kinds of chargers approved and non-approved.... I would call this one a risk...

Why is he selling?

 

[TEG]

Listed as 'internet special' $99,950 now:
http://www.parkplaceltd.com/invento...E1A37A1000553&total=2&pos=1&current=1&size=50

 

[DaveD]

With as much track time (Drag) as this car has seen...

Drag racing a Roadster is a lot different than drag racing an ICE car. Drag racing it puts little more stress on it than a hard launch from a stop light. The torque output of the electric motor is totally controlled by the computer(s) in between the accelerator pedal sensor and the motor drive IGBT's. If it can't handle a straight accelerated run down a smooth pavement to reach 100mph, it really has no business being out on public streets! On the other hand, an ICE car, what with revving the engine to redline (or past), popping the clutch ... yeah, for sure I'd be leery of buying that.

and been attached to all kinds of chargers approved and non-approved...

It's never been attached to any "charger" except for the one that's built into it, which is a part of the PEM. It has been attached to charging stations (aka Connectors, in Tesla parlance), but those are nothing more than glorified extension cords, with user safety features built into them. Even the pilot signal is designed to protect the car under normal conditions. Any damage to the Roadster from using "non-approved" charging stations is much more likely to come from whatever voltage spikes that came off of the power grid that the charging station was attached to. That sort of damage would have happened even if a Tesla connector were used.

 

[scott451]

It's never been attached to any "charger" except for the one that's built into it, which is a part of the PEM. It has been attached to charging stations (aka Connectors, in Tesla parlance), but those are nothing more than glorified extension cords, with user safety features built into them. Even the pilot signal is designed to protect the car under normal conditions.

Actually, the pilot is designed to protect the "charger" not the car (or PEM). The pilot tells the car "do not draw more than XX amps". So the car can draw any amount of current up to the limit signaled in pilot. The external "chargers" are, as you say, glorified [GFI] extension cords with a built in circuit breaker that pops if your car draws too much current.

 

[NEWDL]

Drag racing a Roadster is a lot different than drag racing an ICE car. Drag racing it puts little more stress on it than a hard launch from a stop light. The torque output of the electric motor is totally controlled by the computer(s) in between the accelerator pedal sensor and the motor drive IGBT's. If it can't handle a straight accelerated run down a smooth pavement to reach 100mph, it really has no business being out on public streets! On the other hand, an ICE car, what with revving the engine to redline (or past), popping the clutch ... yeah, for sure I'd be leery of buying that.



It's never been attached to any "charger" except for the one that's built into it, which is a part of the PEM. It has been attached to charging stations (aka Connectors, in Tesla parlance), but those are nothing more than glorified extension cords, with user safety features built into them. Even the pilot signal is designed to protect the car under normal conditions. Any damage to the Roadster from using "non-approved" charging stations is much more likely to come from whatever voltage spikes that came off of the power grid that the charging station was attached to. That sort of damage would have happened even if a Tesla connector were used.

Even with your defensive "expert" descriptions and personal opinions... My concerns still stand. Just because you live near him and may or may not have done business with the owner/previous owner does not mean that the car is more risky of a purchase than one that has not has the previous things mentioned done to it. END OF STORY.