Throttled supercharger speeds

[Ciaopec]

hey, does anyone battery cooling fans kick on anymore during supercharging? I cited that too but service tech just shrugged his shoulder haha

Yes, fans came on today on my 2016 90D refresh. But I was also sitting in 88degree weather with a warm battery.

 

[Jacko996]

I'm just about to buy an S75 dec 2016

Does anyone know if these packs are subject to the throttling??

 

[Dublin 'Eer]

I'm just about to buy an S75 dec 2016

Does anyone know if these packs are subject to the throttling??[/QUOTE

I posted this in the throttling thread but am putting It here too since it should be the same for the vehicle you’re considering:

I finally received the 2020.48.37 update in my 2016 S-75 and supercharged for the first time this morning starting with a warm battery and 18% left. Before throttling, the peak charge was in the 97kW range, and after throttling, it would very briefly touch 82kW just below 50%. Today the car reached a peak charge rate of 108kW, so that’s quite a bit higher than when it was new. It tapered to the former max of 82kW at just before 50% and seemed to taper from there at the same rate as it had before the update. This is a significant improvement that will make long distance traveling much easier especially as more superchargers come online and the “splash and dash” method in the low end of the range can be used. As a heavy supercharger user, I’m very excited with this update.

 

[Vthoma11]

I'm just about to buy an S75 dec 2016

Does anyone know if these packs are subject to the throttling??

Yes, there are variables that will contribute to that though.

 

[marcad80]

How did you find out how many kWh you’ve received? I’d like to know.
My supercharging keeps getting throttled lower and lower, starts at about 45kw and goes to about 15. Really Tesla, 1.5C to 4C???? Clearly a free supercharging slap in our face.

The funny thing is that when supercharging was fast, for those charging while dining or shopping locally it would charge to quickly with idles fees and with a fear of damaging batteries. By making it take an hour + to charge, it’s perfect for dining/shopping, and guilt free for fear of losing range.

So Tesla just screwed over all their travelers with SC congestion just to try and punish free chargers who used to have to limit themselves. Well thought out Tesla.

 

[Ciaopec]

How did you find out how many kWh you’ve received? I’d like to know.
My supercharging keeps getting throttled lower and lower, starts at about 45kw and goes to about 15. Really Tesla, 1.5C to 4C???? Clearly a free supercharging slap in our face.

@marcad80 If you are asking me if I know how many kWh I have received it is just an estimate. I took the lifetime kWh used and estimated how much was DC fast charging vs all other charging . An educated WAG.

 

[tkizzy]

2020.48.37.2 is out…wondering if anybody on this software version can comment on if it does anything to supercharging speeds.​

 

[FlatSix911]

Interesting development...

Tesla agrees to pay owners $625 each over battery throttling after class-action lawsuit

Tesla has agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit over throttling battery capacity. The court hasn’t approved the settlement, but it is expected to be and will include a payment of $625 to each affected Tesla owner. Back in 2019, Electrek reported on several reports from Tesla owners about...

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"Tesla owner David Rasmussen was among the ones affected, and he got one of the most severe drops we have seen. At the time, he told Electrek:
My 2014 Model S 85 was getting a Rated Range of 247 miles until May 13. Now after the next update, it continued to drop to now 217 miles. This is an 11% drop in 5 weeks. On top of the range loss, the DC fast-charging rate at Supercharger stations has also been reduced. Affected owners are seeing much slower charging sessions. Rasmussen has been plotting the battery capacity degradation of his Model S over the last 100,000 miles or so, and the drop is quite obvious:"

 

[ucmndd]

Interesting development...

… that is completely unrelated to throttled supercharging speeds, the topic of this thread.

 

[SemiS3XYR]

So the settlement is for reducing battery range/capacity?

how do I know if I’m qualified for settlement? I have a P85DL and 90% is 216 miles

 

[FlatSix911]

… that is completely unrelated to throttled supercharging speeds, the topic of this thread.

Incorrect... Tesla agrees to pay owners $625 each over battery throttling after class-action lawsuit

"On top of the range loss, the DC fast-charging rate at Supercharger stations has also been reduced.
Affected owners are seeing much slower charging sessions."

 

[ucmndd]

Incorrect... Tesla agrees to pay owners $625 each over battery throttling after class-action lawsuit

"On top of the range loss, the DC fast-charging rate at Supercharger stations has also been reduced.
Affected owners are seeing much slower charging sessions."

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but just because Electrek says something doesn’t mean it’s true, or that you’re interpreting it correctly. The settlement doesn’t cover or address reduced supercharging speeds in any way.

Here is a post from the lead plaintiff explaining why.

Wiki - Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

Tesla’s data show that 1,743 Model S vehicles in the United States ...57 have had battery replacement. This is quite interesting and the first we got such data (from my understanding) May 2019 to July 2021 = 3.3% battery replacement/failure rate over 26 months or ~1.6% failure per 1 year? That...

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[Majerus]

Is there a class action for this issue yet? I have had this issue for years and way past my limit of just rolling with it as my battery warranty will be up within a year.

 

[glide]

Is there a class action for this issue yet? I have had this issue for years and way past my limit of just rolling with it as my battery warranty will be up within a year.

Go check the master batterygate/chargegate thread in the MS battery forum.

 

[Majerus]

Go check the master batterygate/chargegate thread in the MS battery forum.

Thought battery gate, was its own thing.. Ill go take a look. My supercharger speeds have been gimped, but range is fine.

 

[ucmndd]

Thought battery gate, was its own thing.. Ill go take a look. My supercharger speeds have been gimped, but range is fine.

The batterygate suit doesn’t cover supercharging speeds at all, as covered by my post just a few up.

 

[glide]

Thought battery gate, was its own thing.. Ill go take a look. My supercharger speeds have been gimped, but range is fine.

You are only impacted by chargegate then. Info is still in the other master thread.

Short version is Tesla restored *some* of the charging capacity of effected vehicles.

 

[Majerus]

You are only impacted by chargegate then. Info is still in the other master thread.

Short version is Tesla restored *some* of the charging capacity of effected vehicles.

Any chance you have a link to the right thread? The one I just read pretty much only talked about battery voltages being reduced not much on the supercharging front.

 

[WhiteWi]

I have 16 s 75 and it charges just fine between 10-80% starts at 124 and slows down as we go to the limit. Charge times 30-35 minutes. I usually try not to charge pass 70-75%.

 

[glide]

Any chance you have a link to the right thread? The one I just read pretty much only talked about battery voltages being reduced not much on the supercharging front.

Wiki - Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

Lost 20km of max charging within 2 weeks on my S85D. At the 12th of May I was able to charge to 399km at 100% charge. 2 days ago the max charge has dropped to 379km all of a sudden. Temperatures at both charge times were around 18 degrees Celsius. Called Tesla and they’re telling me the car...

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It is buried somewhere in this thread. You can also search the forum for “chargegate” tags.