I don't even get enough bandwidth for Spotify (or DAB reception) reliably when I visit family in Scotland.My phone (which is in my car) is. Been perfect the last few years
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I don't even get enough bandwidth for Spotify (or DAB reception) reliably when I visit family in Scotland.My phone (which is in my car) is. Been perfect the last few years
Counter view: it's batch encoded nonsense designed to pad Bob Stuart's pension pot.A while ago, when Tidal was first announced, so probably a year or so, Tesla upped the audio playback capabilities of the car to 96/24 (that's resolution not bit rate, CD is 44.1k/16bit for comparison) and possibly 192/24. I don't believe that this was just a coincidence.
As mentioned earlier, tbh, no point with Tidal Masters unless you use it at home and ideally have kit that can decode MQA (its backward compatible with non MQA kit). I would like to be wrong, but I really do not believe that the car will decode MQA and have the necessary high bandwidth electronics to take full advantage of it.
However, there is more to Tidal Masters than just resolution which may be of interest to some. Some of this is the provenance of the recording hence the term master which guarantees that the track was taken from a first generation master and contains hints to compensate for the ADC used during the original recording that MQA can then use to produce, along with compensating with the characteristics of the output DAC to give a playback that is as close to the original genuine master recording as is possible. No dodgy tracks of dubious authenticity or sample rate. This does mean that not all tracks are high resolution as many were originally recorded using relatively meagre capabilities, but the end to end process knows those capabilities and allows what comes out at one end is as true as one can get to what went in at the beginning - which is not always a good thing as subsequent mastering may have tweaked the sound giving a different audio rendition that is not true to the original recording. One of the thing that MQA capture is the correct timing of the track which is imho more important than any detail contained within high resolution tracks. You may A/B test an MQA encoded track and not hear any difference, but your toes will tell you there is a difference. This may sound all snake oil, but the two authors of MQA are really top of their game with many years experience and a long track record - some of their work (MLP) formed the basis of the audio codecs used by Dolby on DVD and blu-ray material. If anyone is interested, look up Bob Stuart.
Counter view: it's batch encoded nonsense designed to pad Bob Stuart's pension pot.
I’m not familiar with the term "punter". Anyway, good sound quality is hard to describe in words. Fortunately, for every subscription, there is e free trial period. Check it outSorry, I'm a simple soul and don't understand all these bit rate audio stuff being chucked around. I'm a punter with Premium Connectivity in the Tesla and Apple Music on the phone. How do I get optimum sound quality from what I have?
There would have to be extraordinarily better sound quality to justify an additional subscription for me. I do value sound quality. My home audio system is quite high-end in terms of speakers and amplifiers, but I don't use any good DAC on my sound sources.
Ah, I see you're from Belgium. The meaning I meant there was 'a customer or client, especially a member of an audience'.I’m not familiar with the term "punter". Anyway, good sound quality is hard to describe in words. Fortunately, for every subscription, there is e free trial period. Check it out
The Spotify account in the car is your best available at the minute. I'm not sure you can get Apple Music in a Tesla.Sorry, I'm a simple soul and don't understand all these bit rate audio stuff being chucked around. I'm a punter with Premium Connectivity in the Tesla and Apple Music on the phone. How do I get optimum sound quality from what I have?
There would have to be extraordinarily better sound quality to justify an additional subscription for me. I do value sound quality. My home audio system is quite high-end in terms of speakers and amplifiers, but I don't use any good DAC on my sound sources.
Thank you.The Spotify account in the car is your best available at the minute. I'm not sure you can get Apple Music in a Tesla.
When Tidal appears I'll be switching purely because I prefer that program to Spotify. And I can import all my Spotify playlists to Tidal in a few minutes.
So, in your opinion, do you think the Tidal streaming is likely to be noticeably better given the cabin noise?The world of digital, streamed music is complex, to say the least. I tried Tidal and Qobuz and concluded that. for classical music, Qobuz is better as through our home HiFi system is is more realistic.
The Tesla audio is good, but when compared with the best streamer Linn can offer, and fed through a pair of QUAD valve amps driving their big electrostatic speakers it is just another bomb box. I'm not unhappy, the HiFi cost about half as much as the M3... and in the noisy environment of a car anything much better than the M3 Premium sound system would be wasted, IMO.
It is better than the branded but not original music system in the Mercedes.... Just because the speaker has Burmester (a highly respected German HiFi brand) on the speaker doesn't mean the hardware is the same quality.
Not imo. Ambient noise is limiting factor.So, in your opinion, do you think the Tidal streaming is likely to be noticeably better given the cabin noise?
Spotify is limited to 96kbpsBe interesting to see if Spotify HIFI gets support. I'd be guessing not as I don't think we get the High Quality Streaming (320kbps) supported by my premium account. Can but hope
In a word, No!So, in your opinion, do you think the Tidal streaming is likely to be noticeably better given the cabin noise?
I keep seeing 96kbps quoted, can anyone share how this is known, is it documented somewhere? I can normally tell low bitrate audio and have found Spotify to be acceptable without the amount of underwater swishing in cymbals and high-hats that I’d normally associate with such low bit rate!I'll caveat what I said by agreeing that 96k really is a low bit rate and I'm sure you could notice the difference there, especially in a stationary car. At 70mph on the motorway, cabin noise becomes limiting.