Silicon Desert
Well-Known Member
Yes, I know its the 3 forum. But your statement can be misleading to some people by saying "Tesla stock tires". Just trying to clarify.
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Tire Advice after pothole
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What warranty concerns do you feel would be covered by magnuson-moss? In the case of wheels and tires (and suspensions), magnuson-moss would only protect a person if they put in wheels / tires / suspension that are the exact same specs as the OEM ones.
If someone chooses a different size tire, a different type suspension, etc, magnuson moss wont protect you. Maybe you know that already, but magnuson moss only protects people in the following ways:
1. A manufacturer may not invalidate a warranty on non related systems. If you swap wheels to a size that is not standard, and have a problem with your computer, or the power seats mangusson moss protects you.
2. A manufacturer may not invalidate a warranty if one uses after market parts of the same specifications. If someone buys a different tire brand than the one that came on the vehicle, but they are the same size, and same speed rating, magnusson moss will protect you. If someone buys a different tire brand than the one that came with the vehicle, and they are a different size, and adds spacers, and then there is an issue with suspension, magnusson moss will not protect you.
I guess... but the assumption would be that in the model 3 forum we are talking about the model 3, in a thread about tire replacements on a model 3.Yes, I know its the 3 forum. But your statement can be misleading to some people by saying "Tesla stock tires". Just trying to clarify.
Silicon Desert
Well-Known Member
Thanks, I don't assume anything when I see a general statement.
I am not quite understanding the issue here. Yes, I could have said "model 3" in my statement, but if I was in the model X forum in a thread about Air suspension and you said "Teslas air suspension does X" and I posted in the thread "Umm sorry my tesla doesnt have air suspension", that would be an accurate statement, but not relevant because I would be in the model X section, in a thread about air suspension on a model X.
Same thing.
you only need two more tires now, until the next pothole when you may need two more tires and one more wheel.
GPinzone
Member
1. The burden of proof is on the manufacturer that the modification you made is the cause of the problem.
2. I still have not heard what problems 18" aftermarket wheels will have on the warranty. Does it need to be explicitly said that if you try to jam the wrong rim on the vehicle that it could lead to damage and void your warranty? Was anyone talking about doing such a thing? If they were, I must have missed it.
Which is very easy for them to do, if the part is not the same specifications of the one you replaced. There isnt any specific issue with that, unless someone starts using spacers or changing suspension, then has some issue with something in the suspension. My point was more around the fact that people think that they can just invoke "magnusson moss" and that will protect them from almost anything, and it doesnt.
They will not, because some performance models came with 18" wheel combos when they were first released.
Just happened to me on Friday in my brand new 2021 P3D, BOTH drivers' side tires popped sidewalls from a huge pothole hit. Even tried to slow down (took it at like 20mph, no chance to swerve it...) and it absolutely destroyed the tires and my front rim took a ~1cm dent. Hopefully its not busted. Tires are incredibly hard to get- with different sizes for the front and the rear tire. Really annoying. Have to wait until at least next Monday for a fix. Expensive- at that. I went ahead and bought some 18" TSportlines today...**** CA potholes.
GPinzone
Member
It's easy to say, but not to prove. Manufacturers put "warranty if sticker removed" on video game consoles and hope people think that's legally binding. It isn't. That doesn't mean manufacturers won't try to weasel out of it.
So yes, you can just invoke "Magnuson-Moss" and that will protect you from almost anything that's not obviously your fault.
Does the 2021 have the Michelin PS4S (mine is a 2020)? They’re 2 months backordered from tirerack. Insane! Still trying to figure it out.
Mahamilto
Member
I pulled my 20" wheels off in NYC because of 3 bubbles and a blow out in the first 750 miles. Solution, thus far, is 19" with 245/40/19s... 2000 miles on them with several solid potholes and no damage yet. Hope to keep it that way
I dont think so, I thought I read that they swapped to another summer tire for 2021. Cant you go out to your car and check to see what tires are on it?
It uses staggered Pirelli P-Zero summer tires, after seeing your dilemma getting ahold of PS4S I'm feeling lucky. My TSportline wheels I ordered yesterday (shipped today, due Thursday) came with PS4S on 18s for them, maybe its the 20s that make them scarce.
I hit a pothole only six weeks after taking delivery. Have 2019 Long Range dual motor. It blew out the sidewall. No wheel damage. Tesla service dispached a tow truck to my location. They checked whether they had a replacement on hand first. Took car to service center (it was late at night) and picked it up the following day.
I was saying for you. I was just wondering if they were using the same tires or if they switched. Mine has ps4s.
Yea I’m currently outside of the 50 mile to dealership free tow range and have no spare and Tesla spare program doesn’t work in my region and I don’t want to screw up the rim even driving it a few yards to a flat bed. It’s annoying but might have to just have Tesla deal with it.
