Tire replacement time.

[Yinn]

The problem I have is how do I tell? IOW, other than usually vague anecdotal reports, how can one pick tires that are low rolling resistance? Is there a spec that I can compare between tires?

Without knowing any better, i am inclined to stick w OEM Contis. I have not seen any that claim better from an energy perspective. I have 25,000 on mine, and 6/32 left, evenly worn.

It’ll be different branding from brand to brand. Ecotire. Green. EV tire etc. but most tire selling sites will have a filter.

https://www.tirerack.com/landing/fuel_efficiency.jsp

Look at the 2nd and 3rd tabs.

 

[DCGOO]

It’ll be different branding from brand to brand. Ecotire. Green. EV tire etc. but most tire selling sites will have a filter.
https://www.tirerack.com/landing/fuel_efficiency.jsp
Look at the 2nd and 3rd tabs.

Thanks for that link. The articles discuss low rolling resistance, which were insightful. But none of the actual ratings even mention energy consumption as a spec’d value. I’d just like to be able to compare some kind of guesstimated fuel consumption metric between manufacturers. I have about 60% tread left at 25,000 miles on the OEMs, (which sounds great compared to other reports here), but I don’t want to give up any range, should I choose the Pirellis, Michelin’s or whatever.

 

[SilverUnicorn]

You’re going to want to get tires engineered for low rolling resistance, doesn’t have to be OEM. Inflate your tire pressures 2-3 psi over recommended range. And when given the choice go with a more narrow tread width.

This will all compromise handling but it’ll increase efficiency.

If you want to go nuts, get some color matching vinyl and tape all of your seams/panel gaps. That actually helps quite a bit for aero.

I forgot about the over inflating. Smart call. My panel gaps are not too bad and I’m not going to do that. I’m not that nuts.

 

[Yinn]

Thanks for that link. The articles discuss low rolling resistance, which were insightful. But none of the actual ratings even mention energy consumption as a spec’d value. I’d just like to be able to compare some kind of guesstimated fuel consumption metric between manufacturers. I have about 60% tread left at 25,000 miles on the OEMs, (which sounds great compared to other reports here), but I don’t want to give up any range, should I choose the Pirellis, Michelin’s or whatever.

If you’re looking for tests of consumption, click on a specific tire. They do tests that pit tire against tire and measure fuel consumption. But you have to narrow it down first. There’s no global database of tests. And even multiple tests will vary based on test conditions.

 

[Fairchild]

The problem I have is how do I tell? IOW, other than usually vague anecdotal reports, how can one pick tires that are low rolling resistance? Is there a spec that I can compare between tires?

Without knowing any better, i am inclined to stick w OEM Contis. I have not seen any that claim better from an energy perspective. I have 25,000 on mine, and 6/32 left, evenly worn.

OMG My kids little red wagon tires would be better than CONTIs. They are the worst. Two blowouts on my first X. Only got 19,000 miles out of them when I got 53,434 miles out of the Pirellis Scorpians.

When taking my 2019 in for the LUDICROUS download I had 1242 miles on my vehicle. The technician told me that the CONTIs that came with the car were now at 7/10. There is no way that could happen after 1242 miles. So, CONTI puts depleted tires on new TESLAs???

 

[DCGOO]

OMG My kids little red wagon tires would be better than CONTIs. They are the worst. Two blowouts on my first X. Only got 19,000 miles out of them when I got 53,434 miles out of the Pirellis Scorpians.

When taking my 2019 in for the LUDICROUS download I had 1242 miles on my vehicle. The technician told me that the CONTIs that came with the car were now at 7/10. There is no way that could happen after 1242 miles. So, CONTI puts depleted tires on new TESLAs???

I don’t doubt your experience. But my Contis have 26,000 miles, and are evenly worn to 6/32. My experience suggests I will likely get to 35,000 or 40,000 fairly easily, unless I kill another one. I put a brick through the side of one of my rears a few months ago. Replaced both rears. Plus I can buy the new Contis from Tesla. Tesla will even give me a loaner.

 

[scottf200]

I don’t doubt your experience. But my Contis have 26,000 miles, and are evenly worn to 6/32. My experience suggests I will likely get to 35,000 or 40,000 fairly easily, unless I kill another one. I put a brick through the side of one of my rears a few months ago. Replaced both rears. Plus I can buy the new Contis from Tesla. Tesla will even give me a loaner.

My experience is similarly good with the Contis.

... I got > 39K (5/32) on my original Continentals. I ended up replacing them with the same. I have a 2017 X 100D.

Coincidently I had a Sig 2016 X and had 36K on the original Conti cross contacts ... until the deer took the car (and almost me out). <snip> ... then again I was/am doing a lot of roadtrips so highway miles maybe easier than stop-n-go. As well I live in IL so asphalt is only super hot in the summer (thinking more tire wear then).

 

[Fairchild]

I don’t doubt your experience. But my Contis have 26,000 miles, and are evenly worn to 6/32. My experience suggests I will likely get to 35,000 or 40,000 fairly easily, unless I kill another one. I put a brick through the side of one of my rears a few months ago. Replaced both rears. Plus I can buy the new Contis from Tesla. Tesla will even give me a loaner.

Continental Cross Contacts are $386 per tire retail and you probably get to pay $420 at TESLA, like I had to after the blowout. Gotta buy two ya know, after being hauled 48 miles to the Tesla Service Center.

The Pirelli Scorpion All Season Plus ranges from $138 to $250.
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/pirelli-scorpion-verde-a-s-plus

For all of those who calculate KW/per mile, you may want to think about miles per tire with a real 65,000 mile warranty.

I am at 3/32" and approaching 2/32" on the stock Continentals. Will be replacing them for some quiet, long-lasting, sticky Pirellis before going back to Palm Beach International Raceway to let the Blue Raven reclaim its World Title from the yoho who removed the seats to go faster. I know cab beat him with all seats intact and a good set of Pirellis. And I also have a new main battery courtesy of TESLA a few thousand miles back as well as the Cheetah 46 hp boost.

 

[Oceanwolf]

As the original post owner, it is funny that 3 years past and the thread is still going. Well, now I am at 67K. The COVID-19 pushed us to live in our cabin and we get snow here and there. The last time it snowed, we got around 2 inches (not complaining compared to rest of the country), I was proud to be able to drive to the market until the car decided not to make the turn and had to turn at the next entry. It just slipped, possibly due to my braking instead of using the regenerative braking. My 12V battery was giving a warning, so I got it replaced in our visit back home at Bay Area. The ranger’s numbers were around 4-5/32 for the Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S after more than 41K miles.
I had a small leak on my rear tire, America’s Tire checked it out and said it was due to an old repair, the tire needs to be replaced and their reading for the tires were like 3/32 for the front and 5/32 for the rear. If were to stay in the Bay Area, I think I would be able to get another 10K out of them. We decided to go back to the cabin and ride the rest of the pandemic over there. I would like to have trusty tires that I can go anytime. I am buying new tires. This time I decided on Nokian WR G4’s, pretty comparable price with Pirelli Scorpion A/S that I was very happy with. If you apply for their credit card you also get another 10% off, which I will pay it off and close. No need for more credit cards in my life. Looking at the thread style etc, I am very excited and report back.

 

[Oceanwolf]

I was also tempted by Nankang Cross Sport SP-9 due to their price level. I was not that adventurous but I would like to hear if people like them or not. Maybe next time?

 

[mohanman]

I just recently of as last week got Pirelli AS plus on my 90D 2016 X. Its better then the OEM contis I had. Those were loud and didnt give a comfortable ride, Pirelli much better but my neck still hurts, I think its just the uncomfortable seat and stiffness of the car.

 

[Oceanwolf]

As the original post owner, it is funny that 3 years past and the thread is still going. Well, now I am at 67K. The COVID-19 pushed us to live in our cabin and we get snow here and there. The last time it snowed, we got around 2 inches (not complaining compared to rest of the country), I was proud to be able to drive to the market until the car decided not to make the turn and had to turn at the next entry. It just slipped, possibly due to my braking instead of using the regenerative braking. My 12V battery was giving a warning, so I got it replaced in our visit back home at Bay Area. The ranger’s numbers were around 4-5/32 for the Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S after more than 41K miles.
I had a small leak on my rear tire, America’s Tire checked it out and said it was due to an old repair, the tire needs to be replaced and their reading for the tires were like 3/32 for the front and 5/32 for the rear. If were to stay in the Bay Area, I think I would be able to get another 10K out of them. We decided to go back to the cabin and ride the rest of the pandemic over there. I would like to have trusty tires that I can go anytime. I am buying new tires. This time I decided on Nokian WR G4’s, pretty comparable price with Pirelli Scorpion A/S that I was very happy with. If you apply for their credit card you also get another 10% off, which I will pay it off and close. No need for more credit cards in my life. Looking at the thread style etc, I am very excited and report back.

I received a call from the Discount Tires, they are just ordering my tires. The manager asked if I know these are snow tires. I assured him that they have better traction on snow, but they are not snow tires. I need to make sure they install them correctly, it seems they have not seen them before.
Nokian WR G4 Tire: It’s All-Weather, Not All-Season

 

[Oceanwolf]

I received a call from the Discount Tires, they are just ordering my tires. The manager asked if I know these are snow tires. I assured him that they have better traction on snow, but they are not snow tires. I need to make sure they install them correctly, it seems they have not seen them before.
Nokian WR G4 Tire: It’s All-Weather, Not All-Season

The tires have arrived and installed. The next day I was admiring my new tires and noticed that the rear tire had 265 on the tire wall. My first reaction was damn a...holes they ordered all of them 265. Walking around the car, I had 275s on one side and 265s on the other. The rims seem to be in correct places (the front rims had more brown dirt on them compared to the rear ones) I took the car to the shop and they fixed their error (after 3 hours of waiting)
The tires are very cool. they have asymmetric threads. Very quiet and they are low rolling resistance. I’ll test their snow capabilities when we go back to our cabin, if it would ever snow.

 

[Fairchild]

The tires have arrived and installed. The next day I was admiring my new tires and noticed that the rear tire had 265 on the tire wall. My first reaction was damn a...holes they ordered all of them 265. Walking around the car, I had 275s on one side and 265s on the other. The rims seem to be in correct places (the front rims had more brown dirt on them compared to the rear ones) I took the car to the shop and they fixed their error (after 3 hours of waiting)
The tires are very cool. they have asymmetric threads. Very quiet and they are low rolling resistance. I’ll test their snow capabilities when we go back to our cabin, if it would ever snow.

Full power TILT!

 

[webbah]

I know they are not as well known in the US, but that is changing. I have the Vredestein Quatrac Pro's on my car and they are outstanding. Road noise is almost non-existent and the grip is excellent in snow, rain and dry. Very popular here in Europe and now gaining "traction" in the US. I highly suggest those who want a very quiet tire with excellent grip to check them out! There are other threads on here about them already so I'll leave it at that. I've had Bridgestone and Michelin on my Tesla and once I tested the Vredesteins I sold them all and never looked back.

I have 2 sets of them now in fact. One set on 18's and another on 20's. I use the 18's when I want the best range for long road trips or a bigger sidewall if I'm going to be bashing around in the Swiss alps with rough roads. Most of the time I prefer the 20's for the looks and performance with more patch and grip. 20's are staggered with 245/35 and 275/30.

These are all season tires but rated at 300km/h and I have not had ANY issues with snow, ice, rain or dry. And I see some pretty bad conditions driving in the Alps!

I've done a ton of mods on my car and spent a fortune, but hands down this choice was probably the best one. I can't stand noisy tires and these are dead silent!

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein&tireModel=Quatrac+Pro

 

[Oceanwolf]

Full power TILT!

I have air suspension, I think it auto levels the car.

 

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Gentlepersons: Using Nexen Nferas on my 2016 X Electra. Came with Contis that died rather quickly (all the way into the steel belts at 24K on the inboard edge of the rears). The second set were Nferas that held up much better at a very reasonable price from Walmart (about $163 tonight). Just replaced the rears at 51K because the inboard edge on the rears was getting pretty thin...fronts look fine till next winter. The Walmart solution means the tires go to the Walmart near my house, and they mount/balance and dispose of the tires. No muss or fuss (though the changer did not notice the small difference in width, and got his rims/tires mixed up the first time....could happen anywhere. MTCents John

 

[Fairchild]

John,
I put NEXENS on my Model X and have been nothing but pleased. Half the price of anything else and they have been around since 1932.

Still suffering with Contis on the Model Y. (Contis as my tire specialist put it. The most expensive poor quality tire made.

 

[scottf200]

John,
I put NEXENS on my Model X and have been nothing but pleased. Half the price of anything else and they have been around since 1932.

Still suffering with Contis on the Model Y. (Contis as my tire specialist put it. The most expensive poor quality tire made.

Please point to the specs of the tires you are using.

I didn't find any NEXENS on TireRack for my X although they carry that brand.

 

[Oceanwolf]

Yesterday we drove 157 miles to get to our cabin with our new Nokian WR G4’s. Very quiet and amazingly great mileage. We are expecting snow next weekend, I am planning to test them in the snow going up to Dodge Ridge ski resort.