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Tires for 21" w/ raised wheel guards?

rick325

Member
Dec 27, 2012
47
0
texas
Hi all.

I don't have my MS yet (P16302) but am already stressed about the cyclone wheels. It appears (and from reading the threads) that the interior of the wheel extends outward past the tire. Ugh, ugly curb rash in the future. Firstly, am I correct about this?

Does anybody know of any tires that fit and have a curb guard (Wheel Tech - Tire/Rim Protectors) of any sort?

For example, could one go wider and lower profile maintaing a similar rev/mi as the stock 245/35/21? I actually found this calc on tire rack. Tire Size Calculator 265/30/21 seems like it will fit and might give you a "guard for free" (being a little wider on the same rim). Hrmph.
 
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FlasherZ

Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv
Jun 21, 2012
7,024
1,013
As someone with curb rash on 3 wheels (although only minor on 2), I can say "yes", that you're correct. I haven't had an incident since those first ones, but I had 2 incidents in one week and have the wheels to show for it (and inspired some damage to the tire sidewall, requiring replacement of a tire -- ugh). The car is going into service today and wheel repair is one of the items.

It has been reported that some of the test cars (including Elon's) have used 265's on the rear. I confess I don't understand all the details of considerations that have to be made to do that, or whether special wheels were used with them. You might search for "different tire sizes" to find the threads where it was discussed, or maybe jerry33 will step in with some quick summaries here.
 

rick325

Member
Dec 27, 2012
47
0
texas
Thanks for the response. There is no magic to ti

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As someone with curb rash on 3 wheels (although only minor on 2), I can say "yes", that you're correct. I haven't had an incident since those first ones, but I had 2 incidents in one week and have the wheels to show for it (and inspired some damage to the tire sidewall, requiring replacement of a tire -- ugh). The car is going into service today and wheel repair is one of the items.

Aw man, sorry to hear it. There's a really good chance that I am going to want to put aftermarket rims on my car after I get it (in what feels like 100 years). I wonder what the market is going to be like for a fresh new set of 21" cyclones...
 

jerry33

(S85-3/2/13 traded in) X LR: F2611##-3/27/20
Mar 8, 2012
19,529
21,748
Texas
It has been reported that some of the test cars (including Elon's) have used 265's on the rear. I confess I don't understand all the details of considerations that have to be made to do that, or whether special wheels were used with them. You might search for "different tire sizes" to find the threads where it was discussed, or maybe jerry33 will step in with some quick summaries here.

To get the full benefit of the 265s, the wheels need to have a wider rim width. There would be some suspension changes that go along with it too. Spring rate and different shock valving at the least. I don't know if they would alter the half shaft length, or the geometry (length of the various arms) or not.
 

FlasherZ

Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv
Jun 21, 2012
7,024
1,013
To get the full benefit of the 265s, the wheels need to have a wider rim width. There would be some suspension changes that go along with it too. Spring rate and different shock valving at the least. I don't know if they would alter the half shaft length, or the geometry (length of the various arms) or not.

What he said. :) :confused:
 

Schnetzer

Member
Dec 17, 2012
23
0
Olathe, KS
I got some Alloy Gators for christmas and just installed them, so far very happy with them. They're very unobtrusive and you can carry them over when you get new tires.

Sig698 - I'm looking at getting some Alloy Gators as well, but not sure about black or silver. Since you have a Performance, I'm assuming you have the grey wheels and therefore got the black, but wanted to check. If you have the silver wheels, would you mind posting some photos? I'd be really curious to see how they look up close.

Thanks,
 

dsm363

Roadster + Sig Model S
May 17, 2009
18,278
151
Nevada
Sig698 - I'm looking at getting some Alloy Gators as well, but not sure about black or silver. Since you have a Performance, I'm assuming you have the grey wheels and therefore got the black, but wanted to check. If you have the silver wheels, would you mind posting some photos? I'd be really curious to see how they look up close.

Thanks,

Car Care: @#)$(*!% Curb rash... - Page 5

Here are some pictures from a field test with the rim guards.
 

Sig698

Model S Sig Perf #698
Jan 18, 2012
182
1
Los Angeles, CA
Sig698 - I'm looking at getting some Alloy Gators as well, but not sure about black or silver. Since you have a Performance, I'm assuming you have the grey wheels and therefore got the black, but wanted to check. If you have the silver wheels, would you mind posting some photos? I'd be really curious to see how they look up close.

Thanks,

I do indeed have the grey wheels and got the black gators. You can see pics in the thread linked above. If I had silver wheels, I would have probably still gotten the black since it blends perfectly with the color of the tires for a stealthier install. It may make the rims look a tiny bit smaller, but the light grey/"silver" gators aren't likely to be a perfect match for the oem silver wheels.
 

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