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Too many colors! (HOV Access stickers)

We're all for Pride in California, but this is going too far. It's time to end the madness.

This is fast becoming a management nightmare.
There are no less than five different HOV stickers with different colors, and they all require that you place four stickers on your car, front & back.
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The "normal" color-coded registration stickers that you place on the corners of your license plate are tiny, just 0.5x1.5in and I would argue that serve a more important purpose (verifying you're driving a registered/inspected vehicle) than carpool abuse.

It's almost as if there are two separate bureaucracies in the state - one that wants to encourage EVs and created the HOV lane incentive, and a second that wants to discourage EVs by making it so cumbersome (file a snailmail form, wait >1month, apply multiple stickers that expire, un-expire, etc.).

Why can't you just have special license plate number / suffix / sticker / color?

Is there a process to file a complaint about this?
 
I thought I was alone in this.

Registration stickers also have the month or year printed on them.

Anyone who thinks most cops will know that white just expired but red is good, and purple, and whatever the next color is...but then red goes bad first..


Imagine in 5 years when yellow, green, white, and red are bad.

But purple, black, brown and grey are valid.


This new color every year wont work.
 
White, green and yellow all expired. Only red and purple are active. Eventually there will be up to 4 colors active at one time.

I'm sure cops can remember four colors.

Theres a video somewhere of a cop pulling over a Tesla Model 3 for the center display. He thought it was a computer. No offense to the CHP but they have a lot of laws to enforce, remembering which 4 color hov stickers are valid isnt a priority.


Talk a CHP guy and ask him if that's what he looks at when watching for carpool violators.

Typically it's just speeding anyway.

If I have a white sticker on my car, I could also have a passenger in the back seat and still be legal.

They wont just be able to pull over vehicles with the wrong color sticker.
 

TT97

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Theres a video somewhere of a cop pulling over a Tesla Model 3 for the center display. He thought it was a computer. No offense to the CHP but they have a lot of laws to enforce, remembering which 4 color hov stickers are valid isnt a priority.

The officer knew the law to enforce that you can't have a computer mounted on a center console. A CHP officer that is enforcing carpool violations knows which stickers are valid.


If I have a white sticker on my car, I could also have a passenger in the back seat and still be legal.

You don't need any sticker if you have a passenger in the back seat (assuming it is a 2+ carpool lane). Having a white sticker is no different than not having any sticker. The stickers give you a right to be in the carpool lane without any passengers.
 
The officer knew the law to enforce that you can't have a computer mounted on a center console. A CHP officer that is enforcing carpool violations knows which stickers are valid.




You don't need any sticker if you have a passenger in the back seat (assuming it is a 2+ carpool lane). Having a white sticker is no different than not having any sticker. The stickers give you a right to be in the carpool lane without any passengers.

I understand and agree with you. My point is that as years go by there will be 5,6,7,8 or more HOV color stickers on the road, half of which will be expired.

Theres no year date on the stickers so every year when a new color comes out, the will need to learn which color expired and which new color is valid.
 

TT97

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I understand and agree with you. My point is that as years go by there will be 5,6,7,8 or more HOV color stickers on the road, half of which will be expired.

Theres no year date on the stickers so every year when a new color comes out, the will need to learn which color expired and which new color is valid.

The problem is the stickers need to be visible from afar for enforcement. They could send everyone four new stickers every year and only have one color active at any time but I see that as an even worse bureaucratic nightmare (and there will still be plenty of people driving around with the expired stickers that don't qualify anymore). Having a small sticker on the license plate wouldn't be visible enough.

There will always be at most 4 active stickers and since the program sunsets 9/30/25, there will only be 3 more new colors. I don't see them extending the program any further after 2025 due to the EVs that will be in circulation by then.
 
White, green and yellow all expired. Only red and purple are active. Eventually there will be up to 4 colors active at one time.

I'm sure cops can remember four colors.

Well the YEAR sticker on the license plate is also color coded. Why didn't they somehow align the carpool decal colors with the year colors to make it easier to remember for cops.
I understand and agree with you. My point is that as years go by there will be 5,6,7,8 or more HOV color stickers on the road, half of which will be expired.

Yes I agree, and BTW there is no requirement to remove expired stickers from cars, which leaves ugly residue anyway.
 
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Necessary evil at this point in time? I held out for month before giving in and plastering red stickers on my car. I read about the sticker residue issue and wanted a solution. First tried hand cutting ppf sticker base myself, which I ended up screwing up one of my stickers, so then looked to machine cutting stickers and viola! Still hideous but I've tried to place them as line conforming as possible so they aren't as much of an eye sore. And I got lucky, red on red ;) If you decide to give in as well, let me help you! StickerKnight
 
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Wanting to revive this old thread: I bought a used Model S with red stickers that are about to become invalid. As BEVs get different colored stickers now that remain valid, I'm wondering about applying for different stickers. The REG 1000 application isn't exactly clear about how that might be done.
Anyone have success upgrading from red HOV stickers?
 
Wanting to revive this old thread: I bought a used Model S with red stickers that are about to become invalid. As BEVs get different colored stickers now that remain valid, I'm wondering about applying for different stickers. The REG 1000 application isn't exactly clear about how that might be done.
Anyone have success upgrading from red HOV stickers?
It is a one time deal. You can't upgrade HOV sticker. My wife's Model X has the red sticker too. She already announced that she will be driver mine with the lavender sticker next year LOL. After next year, neither one of us will be driving alone in the HOV lane.
 

Russell

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Wanting to revive this old thread: I bought a used Model S with red stickers that are about to become invalid. As BEVs get different colored stickers now that remain valid, I'm wondering about applying for different stickers. The REG 1000 application isn't exactly clear about how that might be done.
Anyone have success upgrading from red HOV stickers?

Used EVs can get new stickers.


The Income-Based (IB) CAV Decal Program
The IB CAV decal program may allow a new vehicle owner of a used vehicle that was previously issued a CAV decal prior to January 1, 2017, to be issued a CAV decal, valid until January 1, 2024, if the new owner meets the following criteria:
  • The new, current registered owner is not the owner of the vehicle when the decals issued prior to January 2017, expired.
  • The applicant’s total annual household income is at or below $72,080 (this amount is subject to change).
  • Total Annual Household Income requires the disclosure of the annual income of all members of the household, age 17 and older, who reside together and share common living expenses regardless if they are related.
  • The new registered owner name(s) matches DMV records.
 
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