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Top Speed Test – Tesla Model S P85 Gets Driven on the Autobahn

stevezzzz

R;SigS;P85D;SigX;S90D;XP100D;3LR;YLR
Nov 13, 2009
6,100
121
Colorado
The power limiter kicks in awfully early, don't you think? Especially given the relatively high SOC and the few miles driven since charging.
 

Mayhemm

Model S P85+ "Lola"
Nov 9, 2012
1,966
32
Saskatchewan, Canada
The power limiter kicks in awfully early, don't you think? Especially given the relatively high SOC and the few miles driven since charging.

Power limiting would most likely be due to the motor getting hot.

IMO, this is the most glaring weakness of Model S. For a car of its performance, not being able to thrash it around a track (or similarly-suited high-speed zone) for more than a few minutes is a real annoyance. Kind of makes it seem like a bit of a pretender; it's quick off the line but work it a bit and it gives up pretty fast.
 

ElSupreme

Model S 03182
Jan 13, 2012
4,303
89
Atlanta, GA
Power limiting would most likely be due to the motor getting hot.

IMO, this is the most glaring weakness of Model S. For a car of its performance, not being able to thrash it around a track (or similarly-suited high-speed zone) for more than a few minutes is a real annoyance. Kind of makes it seem like a bit of a pretender; it's quick off the line but work it a bit and it gives up pretty fast.

As an AC induction motor gets higher in RPMs the total power output will fall off. This could be true power limiting at such high RPMs as well. Although it does seem to recover in the video without a loss in speed. So temperature could also be a factor.
 

ecarfan

Well-Known Member
Sep 21, 2013
19,198
13,848
San Mateo, CA
IMO, this is the most glaring weakness of Model S. For a car of its performance, not being able to thrash it around a track (or similarly-suited high-speed zone) for more than a few minutes is a real annoyance. Kind of makes it seem like a bit of a pretender; it's quick off the line but work it a bit and it gives up pretty fast.

It is a weakness but one that only concerns a very small fraction of the potential market for the car. Considering an EV is a mass market consumer product it's not an obstacle to mass acceptance.
 

yobigd20

Well-Known Member
Oct 28, 2012
5,927
529
Skaneateles, NY
Wow. Driving 130mph in the rain. Around a bend too. That's just really brilliant. Keep that up and Tesla won't be able to claim that there's never been any occupant deaths in a Tesla vehicle anymore.
 

J-Philipp

Member
May 4, 2013
323
0
Senlis (France)
Agreed. This is just not safe.

But anyway that claim won't last forever. Just statistics.
BTW Tesla boast that an High Performance Upgrade will be available ; specifically designed for... the Autobahn.

We just have to be prepared to hear very bad news one day.
 

Krugerrand

Is Cat
Jul 13, 2012
10,832
52,634
Tesla friendly place
IMO, this is the most glaring weakness of Model S. For a car of its performance, not being able to thrash it around a track (or similarly-suited high-speed zone) for more than a few minutes is a real annoyance. Kind of makes it seem like a bit of a pretender; it's quick off the line but work it a bit and it gives up pretty fast.

Exactly! Because after I drop my spouse at work and my three kids at school (easily weaving in and out of traffic - where the advantages of acceleration are clear to even the slowest witted human), head to Home Depot to pick up the new toilet and pedestal sink I've had on order for the bathroom, along with a few boxes of tile, a bucket of grout, varies tools for the job and 6 shrubs for the backyard and put them in the back, then head over to the grocery store and put my food stuffs in the frunk, I ALWAYS then head over to the racetrack where I meet up with ALL my racing buddies. I mean, that's what EVERYONE on the planet does, right? And that's what EVERY luxury sedan car ever made was meant to do - carry up to 7 people, carry as much cargo as a pickup truck, and be able to eat up the track and spit it out. Oh, and not cost $100 to fuel. For sure, the Model S is a HUGE disappointment and entirely useless vehicle.
 

nrcooled

P#8946 VIN 03225
May 22, 2012
575
33
NoVA
Exactly! Because after I drop my spouse at work and my three kids at school (easily weaving in and out of traffic - where the advantages of acceleration are clear to even the slowest witted human), head to Home Depot to pick up the new toilet and pedestal sink I've had on order for the bathroom, along with a few boxes of tile, a bucket of grout, varies tools for the job and 6 shrubs for the backyard and put them in the back, then head over to the grocery store and put my food stuffs in the frunk, I ALWAYS then head over to the racetrack where I meet up with ALL my racing buddies. I mean, that's what EVERYONE on the planet does, right? And that's what EVERY luxury sedan car ever made was meant to do - carry up to 7 people, carry as much cargo as a pickup truck, and be able to eat up the track and spit it out. Oh, and not cost $100 to fuel. For sure, the Model S is a HUGE disappointment and entirely useless vehicle.

Agreed, I have a $7200 (brand new out the door) GSX-R 750 for any track shennanigans and it still manages 26mpg when hitting 175mph down the back straight of Virginia International Raceway full course. The Model S's wheelhouse isn't the track along with a LOT of other cars in its class. If I wanted a track car that I could daily drive I would have gotten a M5 hands down but I realized a long time ago that tracking my daily driver is a HORRIBLE idea and leads to lots of additional maintenance, downtime, broken bits, cost, and aggrivation.
 

Mayhemm

Model S P85+ "Lola"
Nov 9, 2012
1,966
32
Saskatchewan, Canada
Exactly! Because after I drop my spouse at work and my three kids at school (easily weaving in and out of traffic - where the advantages of acceleration are clear to even the slowest witted human), head to Home Depot to pick up the new toilet and pedestal sink I've had on order for the bathroom, along with a few boxes of tile, a bucket of grout, varies tools for the job and 6 shrubs for the backyard and put them in the back, then head over to the grocery store and put my food stuffs in the frunk, I ALWAYS then head over to the racetrack where I meet up with ALL my racing buddies. I mean, that's what EVERYONE on the planet does, right? And that's what EVERY luxury sedan car ever made was meant to do - carry up to 7 people, carry as much cargo as a pickup truck, and be able to eat up the track and spit it out. Oh, and not cost $100 to fuel. For sure, the Model S is a HUGE disappointment and entirely useless vehicle.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was an electric Subaru Outback. :rolleyes:

Don't know about yours, but my Tesla has over 400HP, a 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds, 21-inch wheels with Ultra High Performance tires, etc, etc. All of these check boxes point to the car having performance aspirations. The P85+ is even modeled on the McLaren MP4-12C. But it's all posturing and trying to look the part, because it falls flat on the follow-through.

One of the things that attracted me to Model S is that it can do all of these things well. It can haul 7 people, it can make a run to Home Depot and not bat an eye. It also looks great and it's pretty darn fast too. However, Tesla needs to work on its stamina, IMO.
 

Krugerrand

Is Cat
Jul 13, 2012
10,832
52,634
Tesla friendly place
Don't know about yours, but my Tesla has over 400HP, a 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds, 21-inch wheels with Ultra High Performance tires, etc, etc. All of these check boxes point to the car having performance aspirations. The P85+ is even modeled on the McLaren MP4-12C. But it's all posturing and trying to look the part, because it falls flat on the follow-through.

Many of the things you claim as posturing for performance are simply the result of being an all-electric car. Perhaps Tesla should have inhibited the instant torque and hp capabilities of its electric motor so that you aren't confused about whether it's a luxury sedan or a race car? Interestingly enough, it's also because it's an all-electric car that allows it to carry 7 people and half of Home Depot, while having instant torque and a herd of horses by designing the battery pack to be flat like a mattress, rather than square like a stove, and then sticking it on the bottom of the car instead of on the roof, giving the Model S the added bonus of great handling characteristics. Still, most of us are well aware that Model S is firstly a luxury sedan suited to families and family activities, not a race car.

However, Tesla needs to work on its stamina.

Again, because we all take our family sedans to the track every weekend with the intent to race Tony Stewart in whatever specialty race car he's pulled out of the garage. I imagine Model S will never be changed in a manner to suit your racing needs, since that's not why it exists in the first place. Perhaps the next generation of the Roadster will be more to your liking. You can put a bumper hitch on it, customize a trailer with additional seating and storage, and pull it behind you.
 

Raffy.Roma

Active Member
Jul 22, 2012
3,259
21
Rome (Italy)
Agreed. This is just not safe.

But anyway that claim won't last forever. Just statistics.
BTW Tesla boast that an High Performance Upgrade will be available ; specifically designed for... the Autobahn.

We just have to be prepared to hear very bad news one day.

Hope the assistant driver package be ready as soon as possible and before the High Performance Upgrade for this reason.
 

MartinAustin

Active Member
Jul 21, 2013
2,691
11,139
Austin, Texas USA
Wow. Driving 130mph in the rain. Around a bend too.

AND it is March, and probably a pretty cold day in Germany.

So, let's wait until July or August, when the weather is much warmer, wash the car, take out all removable weight e.g. parcel shelf & power charging cables, go out on a nice dry day and try the same thing again. (and on a straight)

I bet the top speed of the car will be higher than 212km/h.
 

Realist

Member
Jun 10, 2013
321
80
Germany
AND it is March, and probably a pretty cold day in Germany.

So, let's wait until July or August, when the weather is much warmer, wash the car, take out all removable weight e.g. parcel shelf & power charging cables, go out on a nice dry day and try the same thing again. (and on a straight)

I bet the top speed of the car will be higher than 212km/h.

It is not going to change anything. The Tesla's performance is pathetic above 160kph. My girl friends 140 hp VW Golf can do better than this.
 

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