TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

Townhouse NEMA 14-50 Installation Finally Done!

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by Mainpower, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. Mainpower

    Mainpower Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2016
    Messages:
    5
    Location:
    Florida
    Hello fellow posters. I've been following this forum for a while but this is my first post.

    About 6 months ago I started the process of trying to convince my homeowner's association to allow me to install an electrical outlet near my parking spot (common area). As you might have guessed, this was not a request they had entertained in the past. After months of going back and forth with their attorney and drafting a lengthy agreement, the electrician moved forward to pull the permit about 2 weeks ago. Construction started on Friday and finished yesterday. At last - I can charge at home without the need to spend my lunches at my local Supercharger station.

    I did a lot of research and spent a fair amount of time negotiating this deal with my association. If anyone would like some help or suggestions with dealing with their associations, please do not hesitate to shoot me a note.

    Thanks!

    -M
    IMG_4806.JPG IMG_4810.JPG
     
    • Like x 5
  2. KJD

    KJD Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2013
    Messages:
    630
    Location:
    SLC, UT
    Great installation. How far did you have to trench to get to your power source?
     
  3. Edmond

    Edmond Permanon

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    482
    Location:
    Seattle
    It's not high enough to withstand the next tidal surge... :j

    Hey I need a drainage easement between two neighboring houses, and it's common condo area so I need to get the easement from the condo assoc. Their yards are always getting flooded because their developer didn't account for drainage from my land. I'm willing to build an underground vault on my land, but I need to put an overflow between two of their houses to the storm for overflow.

    Any suggestions on getting the easement? Maybe getting them to help pay?
     
  4. Mainpower

    Mainpower Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2016
    Messages:
    5
    Location:
    Florida
    Thanks! All the credit goes to my neighbor and the electrician. Both are smart guys.

    Probably had to run the cable underground about 35 feet or so from my breaker box to the outlet. Luckily I had my parking spot in front of my unit.
     
  5. Mainpower

    Mainpower Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2016
    Messages:
    5
    Location:
    Florida
    Have you brought in a licensed electrician to take a look at it? They might have some alternative idea. If you need an easement, you're going to need to persuade the board and likely sign some paperwork that limits your use of the easement (assuming they are inclined to give it to you).

    Good luck!
     
  6. Model S M.D.

    Model S M.D. Ludicrous Radiologist

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2015
    Messages:
    724
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    @Mainpower Awesome accomplishment! If possible, you might consider installing a bracket into that wooden post so your UMC power adaptor isn't dangling like that.
     
  7. Mainpower

    Mainpower Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2016
    Messages:
    5
    Location:
    Florida
    You think that will be an issue? With the design of the plug head set to hang down, it seems like it was designed to hang and bear the weight.
     
  8. Model S M.D.

    Model S M.D. Ludicrous Radiologist

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2015
    Messages:
    724
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    @Mainpower I honestly don't know if Tesla recommends against free hanging it like that in lieu of a bracket. Some pretty cool ideas for hanging it can be found here (including a pretty sick 3D printed bracket created by @UberEV1: Organize your UMC!
     
  9. Shaggy

    Shaggy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Messages:
    152
    Location:
    Austin
    Since there isn't a curb, I'd suggest either a metal pole or stand alone curb section to avoid the careless driver hitting it or opening their door into it (pole > curb).
     
  10. David29

    David29 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2015
    Messages:
    563
    Location:
    DEDHAM, MA
    I sent you a note asking for a copy of your legal agreement because I am in midst of negotiating one myself for a condo in MA. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  11. Jedi2

    Jedi2 New Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2
    Location:
    Ashland, MA
    I'm also looking to do the same with my condo association here in MA. I do have a question, as I notice you elected on to use the Tesla wall connector. Was there a reason why? You would then not have to use your own charge cord every time, and if you have dual chargers it would be twice the charge. I'm also thinking that this would prevent anyone from using your charge station when you aren't there, as Tesla wall connections are unique.
     
  12. tdelta1000

    tdelta1000 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    1,667
    Location:
    South Florida
    Mainpower...Thank you for pushing the envelop and giving us all an avenue on this issue. How did they run to power for your meter over to your charging point?
     
  13. David99

    David99 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2014
    Messages:
    2,055
    Location:
    Brea, Orange County
    I don't know if those kind of stories make me upset or happy. I'm happy because it's one little step in the right direction. EVs are coming, people need to see it. Upset because it requires 6 months of negotiation and lawyers to have a freaking electrical outlet installed. HOA should not make things more complicated and expensive. An electrical outlet is with a breaker and GFI is perfectly safe.
     
  14. David29

    David29 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2015
    Messages:
    563
    Location:
    DEDHAM, MA
    Met with a lawyer today to review the draft agreement with the condo association for my proposed charging arrangement. All sorts of issues arise -- authority of the board to grant me permission, any previous precedent for other similar actions, insurance issues, yadda yadda yadda. Insurance company can't show me language that indicates they will cover losses or liability for my equipment on common property. Getting mighty discouraged. Legal fees will soon equal the cost of the physical installation. Could turn out to be damned expensive electricity....
     
    • Informative x 1
  15. jlucero

    jlucero Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2015
    Messages:
    417
    Location:
    DALLAS
    since its a common area, what happens if a non EV car parks there and you need a charge?
     
  16. miimura

    miimura Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,251
    Location:
    Los Altos, CA
    It appears that while the outlet and parking is technically in the "common area" they have assigned parking. Normal remedies should apply for someone parking in your spot.
     
  17. Electric700

    Electric700 Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2013
    Messages:
    987
    Location:
    Florida, United States
    Very nice 14-50 installation! Also my complements to you, your neighbor and your electrician for working it out so that you can charge there.
     
  18. Model S M.D.

    Model S M.D. Ludicrous Radiologist

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2015
    Messages:
    724
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    The outlet is technically in the common area and he has an assigned parking space right next to it.
     

Share This Page