Toyota to show new BEV?

[VolkerP]

Yoza said Toyota will not offer fast charging on any vehicles until the SAE determines a standard...

What does Toyota mean by "offer"? They show the FT-EV-III with CHAdeMO. That's not an offer. They plan to sell the RAV4 EV only to fleets and car sharing projects. No offer to the public, too.
==> they can produce CHAdeMO equipped RAV4 EVs and still keep their wording.

 

[Robert.Boston]

This makes me change my thinking -- maybe Tesla is right, after all, just to move forward with its own solution. It's clear that waiting around for committees to design half-assed solutions isn't sensible.

 

[dpeilow]

Don't forget the original Rav4 EV had TEPCO quick charging in Japan but not in the US. Could happen again.

 

[TEG]

Don't forget the original Rav4 EV had TEPCO quick charging in Japan but not in the US.

Do you have a reference for that? I know there were some early ones with conducive (not inductive) charge ports, but I didn't realize they offered QC capability.

 

[Lloyd]

What does Toyota mean by "offer"? They show the FT-EV-III with CHAdeMO. That's not an offer. They plan to sell the RAV4 EV only to fleets and car sharing projects. No offer to the public, too.
==> they can produce CHAdeMO equipped RAV4 EVs and still keep their wording.

Rav4 EV is to be sold to the public in California. I have one on order as an individual.

 

[EV_de]

ReBorn Toyota ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/01/us-toyota-bmw-environment-idUSTRE7B00J920111201

Toyota, BMW join hands on green technology

(Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp and BMW AG agreed on Thursday to join hands on a broad range of environmental technologies, forging a partnership between two engineering stalwarts in the increasingly competitive auto industry.

.....

 

[EVNow]

Rav4 EV is to be sold to the public in California. I have one on order as an individual.

Do you know when it is supposed to be released (like which month/quarter of next year) ?

 

[Lloyd]

Do you know when it is supposed to be released (like which month/quarter of next year) ?

I heard a rumor which I have not been able to confirm from Toyota employees, that it will be released as early as January.

 

[Robert.Boston]

ReBorn Toyota ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/01/us-toyota-bmw-environment-idUSTRE7B00J920111201

Toyota, BMW join hands on green technology

Under the agreement, the two will work together on lithium-ion battery research that is seen as key to electric cars

What an interesting development ... sounds like Toyota is working to cut Tesla out of the picture in the long run.

 

[Norbert]

What an interesting development ... sounds like Toyota is working to cut Tesla out of the picture in the long run.

How so? "Lithium-ion battery research" isn't exactly what Tesla is doing. It does show a substantial interest in BEVs as such, though.

 

[Norbert]

Rav4 EV is to be sold to the public in California. I have one on order as an individual.

Sounds like we will be well informed...

 

[dpeilow]

Do you have a reference for that? I know there were some early ones with conducive (not inductive) charge ports, but I didn't realize they offered QC capability.

Yep, the manual of this very car...

The eagle-eyed among you will see that the socket on this 1999 model looks very familiar...

 

[stopcrazypp]

Yep, the manual of this very car...
The eagle-eyed among you will see that the socket on this 1999 model looks very familiar...

The TEPCO charger is basically just an earlier version of the CHAdeMO:
http://www.iea.org/work/2008/transport/TEPCO.pdf
Here's what the TEPCO plug looked like in the iMIEV as of 2008 (CHAdeMO still haven't been established yet; March 2010 was when it was established):

Here's what CHAdeMO looks in the final Leaf implementation in 2011:

 

[TEG]

OK, the prototypes that I remembered were different ones than that.

Toyota RAV4 EV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...The RAV4 EV prototypes also were equipped with on-board level 2 chargers and connected via a front fender conductive charger coupling made by Yazaki Corporation...

I recall that those ones has some sort of J1772 precursor.

 

[dpeilow]

This wasn't a prototype but a Japanese spec imported to the UK.

 

[dpeilow]

Toyota iQ EV

 

[DITB]

Top Gear, Jesse James and Toyoda all say that Hydrogen will eliminate the need for battery vehicles in five years.

On one hand they have given up on saying batteries will not win. On the other hand they are going out with a "I'll get your little dog, too!" ...

... and this post was written in August 2009, now we have 2014.

If you have millions of dollars, and don't mind being stuck with hydrogen fuelling stations for the life of the car, well, then go for a Hydrogen car. If you can find one where you live.

If Tesla model S had a problem with "vampire load", then just wait until you hear from Hybrid car owners whining about how the hydrogen fizzes off 24/7. It's like keeping oil in a strainer!