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Track Mode on PXXXDL Model S or X?

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by jaed, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. jaed

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    Now that the model 3 ludicrous cars are getting the track mode has anyone heard if it will be coming to the model S?
    It would be a bummer for people who paid almost 2x's as much for a P100D to be left out in the cold.

    Anyone hear anything?
     
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    There has been no indication that it will go to S/X.
     
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    But given it's just a software mode, there's nothing stopping them from making them for all P models...
     
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  4. brianman

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    You really should read the Motor Trend review.

    "It's just a software mode. Why doesn't the iPhone feature ___ work on my Xbox?"
     
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    Motors and cooling systems are not the same.
     
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    I did read the article. What I mean is they need to create custom software for each of them. I'm not implying they port the model 3 changes to the models S and X. It's still just software.

    That seems rather obvious... but that doesn't change the fact that a track mode could be made for the others as well. The difference would be the S could only run about 3 laps before overheating (depending on track length). That still doesn't preclude a track mode that could be used for short periods.
     
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  7. jaed

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    The other thing is Elon claims the Model S is still the top of the line flagship over the 3 then gives the model 3 performance upgrades a S does not have. Just does not make sense. For a 160k car vs 85k. It doesn’t help sell the higher margin car for them. Or maybe I am just bitter having a P100DL and not having track mode
     
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    perhaps Tesla would "update" these Model S GTs ??
     
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    It isn't just software though, it is software on the Tesla VDC device. From what I recall the S&X come with a Bosch VDC device.
     
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    I wouldn't write off the possibility. Elon is always adamant that the S is the top performance model still.
    Elon Musk on Twitter
     
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    Absolutely. Now that they have track mode on their own VDC system in the wild I would expect that they have someone working on fitting it into the S&X. (I assume it will be cheaper than licensing the current Bosch one they are using as well as adding more in-house control.) It would just be part of their continuous improvement effort, and I am sure will cause a big ruckus when people find out that a P100D built on day x doesn't have track mode while one built on day x+1 does have it.
     
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    I don't see it. The present design (cooling) of the S doesn't allow it to be done in such a way as top make it a useful track vehicle. I see it with the next version.
     
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    I agree it won't be a useful track vehicle with its overheating issues, but that again doesn't preclude a mode that allows you to drive it track style for short periods.
     
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    True. But if you have limited human resources to throw at these problems, you wouldn't spend them on the development of a semi-functional mode on a design that's reaching end-of-life.
     
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    It's my perception that Tesla is more likely to work on fun ideas than problems that still need solving.
     
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    I don't think they can control the bosch unit that S and X use, with the same control they have on their own system in model 3.
    Wait for HW change
     
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    Two laps to set a record time. The S can do that.
    Autocross does not seem to overheat the S.
    Does the S use the battery as a heat sink for the motor now? Can software do that in the S? Track mode may help more than we think.
     
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    Other than that pesky mission statement of theirs......
     
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    Indeed and one must know when one quotes one who is being sarcastic. I hate when it doesn't come across in text. :p
     

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