Tracking P85D delivery thread

[tezco]

Let's take a deep breath and get back on track...you guys will be so hyped when you receive your new cars. I'm jealous...

 

[LetsGoFast]

Believe it or not, communications are better now than with the initial Sig production run, but there is still some room for improvement. My Sig reservation was 509 if I remember correctly, but the final VIN revealed that I was more than 300 behind my adjacent reservation holders. There was a vague mention in TMC about occasional cars that were not up to standards, were scrapped, and rebuilt from scratch. There also was an issue with the quality of the white leather Tesla originally received from their supplier. Personally, I was glad my car was late but perfect, instead of on-time but blemished. Everyone would like to see a linear build process, but it just doesn't happen in the real world.

I wouldn't disagree with the idea that I'd like things right either. However, it would be easy enough to send a message to anyone whose car was pulled for any QC-related reason that indicated that it was the case and to provide an estimate of the average and/or worst-case delay scenarios. And to update with a similar message when the car was corrected or if there was a significant change to the projected schedule.

 

[gpetti]

Much like with the complaints that got spun off into their own thread, I really think that no one would really mind the various delays and technical problems if they were managed with more clear and consistent communications. At least that is true for me. I feel like the only way I get any information is to proactively contact my DS and even then it is hit or miss at best what they are able to tell me. It also puts me in an uncomfortable position of trying to decide if I am being unreasonable by calling them every four or five days. Having the delays wrapped around the holidays and the deadline for tax credits and new year VINs is also a complicating factor.

I guess I'm kind of in the middle. I totally get the frustration some people express and I'm fine with them venting here from time to time and I also understand and appreciate the perspective of the "old timers" who point out that ultimately this wait is nothing compared to what they went through.

I have tremendous respect for the real early adopters and sympathy too. I'm not sure if I would have been as patient. The problem is that there is always someone worse off no matter what the situation. I'm sure the original roadster owners rolled their eyes at the model S early adopters - though some were the same people! My others point is perhaps more important, I.e. We shouldn't measure Tesla today against Tesla 2 years ago. And while we can be patient and understanding - to a point - with a company we love, that would be easier to do if we knew what was going on. In the absence of any useful information we grasp at straws and share information here which leads to the realization that we are not necessarily being handled fairly in some cases.

 

[tezco]

You've got to be very careful with your official releases these days with the press hanging on every word.

Tesla and I share a common fault--I always underestimate the remaining time to completion. 64 years and I haven't learned the drill. Hopefully Tesla can improve on this. It's great that they are so willing to share an estimated delivery date, but their track record with regards to the launch of new product could be improved.

 

[evboost]

I received my "final" MVPA for my P85D today along with the "Make final payment" button showing up on MT. My MVPA is showing a 12/17 delivery date even though MT still shows my car as being in the queue.

 

[AllenWong]

Watching you guys complain about delivery times is hilarious. When I ordered my Aventador, I'd never test driven one nor sat in one. I'd only seen it in person once when the Lamborghini CEO did an unveiling event in NYC. And guess how long the wait list for that car was... 13 months with a $50,000 deposit. So getting my P85D in about 2.5 months with only a $2,500 deposit is like a walk in the park. So, please. Chill. I get the frustration, but it's just a car! It's not like they're holding your baby hostage.

 

[mastaace]

Watching you guys complain about delivery times is hilarious. When I ordered my Aventador, I'd never test driven one nor sat in one. I'd only seen it in person once when the Lamborghini CEO did an unveiling event in NYC. And guess how long the wait list for that car was... 13 months with a $50,000 deposit. So getting my P85D in about 2.5 months with only a $2,500 deposit is like a walk in the park. So, please. Chill. I get the frustration, but it's just a car! It's not like they're holding your baby hostage.

+1: I am on the verge of bailing on this thread because this complaining is getting us off topic. Guess what, we are all waiting for our deliveries. We all know Tesla has to improve communication but venting on this thread over and over is getting old. If you have a complaint, I think it's reasonable to post it, but stop beating it to death. We get it. If it some people don't get their car before 2015, you will cancel. It's your loss.
That's fine. We understand the tax issues. Start a new thread.

 

[YTACHI]

I confirmed my ordered P85D in Japan just now.

Ordered: 11/30/2014
Confirmed: 12/13/2014
Estimated delivery: n/a
Scheduled delivery date: n/a
Actual delivery date: n/a
Delivery location: Tokyo, Japan
Color: Red
Wheels: Silver 19" Cyclone
Interior: Tan, Piano Black, Next Gen seats, White headliner
Options: All except 3rd row
Trading up from: n/a

 

[raumgleiter]

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I just noticed that my VIN has changed! I used to have a 2014 VIN (EFP67213), but now it's 2015 (FFP67213). Estimated delivery late February here in Sweden, and I do have the cold weather package so hopefully I'll get the heated steering wheel.

hi cjk
3 days ago my delivery date changed from february to march 2015. i have also quite a low vin 66629 (switzerland). i am excited, where the first model s d will be delivered. i sold my s p85sig a few weeks ago, so i am counting days till delivery. it would be great i you keep in touch about delivery dates .

best wishes from switzerland
raumgleiter

 

[WarpedOne]

Unfortunately they are alienating some of their best ambassadors.

No, they are not. They are only filtering out the noisiest ones. Who will be very noisy when tesla does something they dislike.

To all the whiners (yes, it is correct word): we here cannot do anything about it. Why do you complain here to us, over and over again?
Yes, you paid big buck. Yes, you are waiting. Yes, things could be better. And no, we cannot do ANYTHING to help you out. Clear?

NOT A SINGLE THING!

So, why than you do not stop making noise? Go complain where it might help - tesla store, manager, tesla corporate and report with any response you get. But no, you repeatedly complain here.

It is one thing to report that you are (still) waiting. That is informative on situation. It is a completely different thing when every second post is of same forum members still whining they still did not received anything and they will abandon ship if yada yada....
Shut up or put up and cancel the order and again shut up.

I'm am not here to read how some rich **** is crying because he still didn't receive his new toy. I'm here to read how some other rich *** did receive it and what it is like to smell, see, touch and drive!

@MarcG: I have a request
Can you take a film of your dashbord doing a 0 - xxx run, with 'fullish' battery and on dry pavement?
I'm interested in max power this beast can spew.

 

[Bilardo]

hi, when did you order your car ?

hi cjk
3 days ago my delivery date changed from february to march 2015. i have also quite a low vin 66629 (switzerland). i am excited, where the first model s d will be delivered. i sold my s p85sig a few weeks ago, so i am counting days till delivery. it would be great i you keep in touch about delivery dates .
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best wishes from switzerland
raumgleiter

 

[Checkcaptain]

Confirmed the day after D day (we coukd not do it earlier here, as Norwegian prices were not ready.

i got my VIN a few weeks ago. 666xx. ETA is feb.

So I was 3 weeks later than you. Still have no VIN assigned:crying:

 

[Todd Burch]

The complaining (or venting or whatever you want to call it) that you did on the forum was about an issue important to you where you thought you were being treated unfairly, exactly as some of the people posting in this thread feel they are being treated unfairly now. You then tried to correct the issue by going straight to Tesla, as some of these posters have done, or have talked about doing, and the result was a better, more fair policy for everyone!

Like I said, many frustrations are valid and that's fine. My post was primarily aimed at those who are just complaining about the fact that their car is x weeks later than originally expected.

I'd hardly call my situation (in which I had lost $24k at the time due to low insurance valuation and the lack of a prorated refund) comparable to those who simply have to wait a few extra weeks to get their awesome car. But I've made my point, many disagree and that's fine. I'll let this thread get back on track.

 

[REBroker]

MarcG, huge congrats on the car and thanks for the awesome feedback and videos! I've consumed all of it and I'm very grateful

One question if you don't mind, as a first Model S owner what are some negative things you have found with the car? I know you love your P85D, but if you had to pick a couple of things that you are not fully satisfied with, which would they be? Thanks.

 

[lolachampcar]

A few observations-
Due diligence will properly bracket Tesla's ability to do anything "new" by an exact date. If you were up to speed, you would know the drill. You would also know that highly volatile publicly traded companies can not say ANYTHING useful about delivery unless they do so to everyone at the exact same time. Put differently, individual Delivery Specialist channels can not yield useful information about the real cause for a delay. You will only get this information in something like a blanket email from Jerome.


A person can always cancel if Tesla's performance does not meet their financial/timing requirements. In the extreme case where the numbers swing as much as they do in some owner's cases, I suspect Tesla will even refund the deposit. Like in any contract, circumstances are fluid and you must be willing to loose opportunity costs if things reach a point where the deal is no longer viable for you.


This was put differently by another poster - energy is best spent where you will get a return. If you feel posting about the problem will motivate Tesla more than it will garner criticism from other forum members then post away. It has been my experience that I get more heart ache from negative feedback from my peeps then positive response from Tesla. There are exceptions but, for the most part, bitching on the forums has been counter productive for me.

 

[AlMc]

Back on track: P85D VIN 65007 went to 'in production' overnight. Will be delivered Dec 30th 10am. Devon. PA.


It will be my wife's car (AWD). I have the first world problem of having to settle to drive my RWD 85P+:wink:.


Having positive thoughts for everyone in production, produced and in 'inspection', and yet to be produced and delivered by Dec 31st

 

[lolachampcar]

Yea baby!!!!
ViN
5YJSA1H28EFP68187

Oops, premature excitement. This appears to be a 2013 ViN.........

 

[Aargau]

My p85d just switched from in production to beng prepped for delivery. vin 64190

 

[zzzzdoc]

Yea baby!!!!
ViN
5YJSA1H28EFP68187

Nice.

 

[xy46]

First: MarcG, congratulations. I am beyond jealous.

Second: Did you all see the Model S nameplate at the bottom of the door in MarcG's pics? I think that's new!

Third: Ok, I'm going to rant. If you don't want to see it, move on. This is not directed at anyone in particular.

What's with all the whining guys? Jeeez. Many of us Model S old timers waited 3 YEARS for our Model S. You've been waiting a few months at most and sound like Tesla has murdered your first-born. For the love of God, get some perspective folks. You're about to take delivery of the fastest sedan on the planet. Built-to-order from the internet. Quicker than all but the most elite of cars, period. Consider this car is ALSO among the most efficient cars on the planet. Consider it's arguably the world's most advanced car, at a price point for its performance that is amazing. You're going to get free fuel.

Do you all understand the remarkable engineering achievement that the P85D represents? The Model S when it first came out was a remarkable achievement in and of itself. From a performance perspective, this car is an engineering triumph on a whole new level. In just 2.5 or so years, Tesla has literally leapfrogged 110 years of ICE performance innovation. Literally all of the old class performance leaders have now been completely eclipsed by the new guy (track performance remains to be seen--but this car's made for driving--not tracking!)

Stop the whining for a moment and think about that. The fastest sedan on the planet, and it can seat 5+2. It has 1.5 trunks. The Audi RS7 used to be the benchmark of sedan performance. Now it's the P85D. Think about that again. The car that 2 months ago was the quickest sedan on the planet is now chasing you.

I understand the frustration of expecting delivery and planning around it, only to be let down. I've been through it.

But please recognize that Elon wasn't kidding. Building cars in freakin' HARD. Bulding cars for demanding buyers used to expensive performance/luxury cars is even harder. Guess what? Building cars to order, with new technology and a new company--as the new guy--is an order of magnitude HARDER.

Tesla is not perfect. We all know that. They can improve, no doubt. But Tesla wants to get these cars in your hands. They want nothing more than that. They're not playing favorites, nor trying to favor some at the expense of others. Manufacturing is just a complex beast. The reasons for the delays are usually complex and you will likely never know the full complexity of the reason why your car took 4 weeks longer to build than some other guy. The wait, in the end, is in your best interest and you'll forget it when you take delivery and switch to INSANE mode.

Just take a moment, breathe, and relax. Whether you get your tax credit this year or next...whether you have the car before your vacation or not...whether your car is a 2014 or a 2015, or has a heated steering wheel...get some perspective. You're going to be owning and driving among the most bitchin' cars on the planet.

Be happy you can afford this car, be thankful that there are a lot of bright people at Tesla that put in sh*t tons of hours a week at work to make this car as awesome as they can. And take pleasure in knowing that *this* Model S "veteran" is ridiculously jealous of you.

Todd - thank you! I am waiting for my P85D to be delivered by year end and have been quietly reading all these posts being anxious as everyone else for their car to enter or exit production and be delivered. I am personally waiting for mine to exit production and hopefully deliver by 12/29 when I will end my vacation early to fly into Chicago to pick it up. Your post is a great reminder to keep things in perspective, at least for me, and to stay focused on my excitement of becoming a new Tesla owner. The Tesla grin remains strong!