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Train vs Truck Freight; Passenger travel statistics includes planes

Discussion in 'Semi' started by Brando, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. Brando

    Brando Active Member

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    Surprising what you can learn with a few internet searches. Might start by searching the above title.

    passenger trains US vs EU
    Why the United States Has the Most-Advanced Rail System in the World - Master Resource

    and another perspective
    Why Passenger Trains Don’t Work in Europe

    US and EU are different.
    Calling US RailRoads envy of the world just seems wrong. Truth can be stranger than fiction. Careful what you measure.
    IF you think US Freeway system is bad (as in needs repairs) take a hard look at US rail. Max speeds often 35 mph because of track conditions. Just take West Coast Amtrak to experience for yourself. Please comment on the condition of your Rail system.

    Fact Sheet: High Speed Rail Development Worldwide | White Papers | EESI about 10 pages

    Why would I suspect that corruption has anything to do with these transport systems?

    NOTE: Distance between stops largely determines maximum speed or minimum travel times.
    walk, bike, auto, bus, tram, subway, train, high speed train, maglev, hyperloop, plane. StarShip. Costs vary.

    Surprising how much we read written by people who don't bother to research - as research is so easy today. Now finding truth is always another matter isn't it.
     
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  2. SmartElectric

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    I like rail because it's lower energy intensity to ship most goods, but oil isn't one of them...

    Sadly, rail has expanded from Alberta to US due to pipeline restrictions forcing oil onto tanker cars:
    CER - Canadian Crude Oil Exports by Rail - Monthly Data

    Pipeline is generally safer and less energy intensive to ship oil.
    Rail doesn't suffer from the decades of planning, permitting and construction inherent in scaling out pipelines.

    Whereas shipping electrons around is pretty efficient.
    Sigh.
     
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    production where you use it (solar) and storage
    not transmitting electrons first goal -by far the cheapest, right?

    Search Tony Seba - pick one of his lectures (disruption often in the titles of his talks/papers.
     
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    Solar is awesome, only 10m away from my car, so the total distance the electrons had to travel to fuel my EV's. :)
     
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