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Trinity Atomic Site "Ground Zero" caravan October 3 from ABQ SC ??

Discussion in 'Mountain/Southwest' started by reddy, Aug 30, 2015.

  1. reddy

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    This place is on my bucket list.

    The US Army opens the Trinity Site for visitors for only two days a year. The next day is October 3, at 8am - 2pm.

    The parking lot is a 1/8 mile walk to the actual ground zero.

    I wanted to throw out a possible meetup and Tesla caravan to the New Mexico site of the worlds first nuclear explosion.

    The site is 120 miles from the ABQ supercharger, meaning we would need to watch the speed on the way there, or stop at Socorro RV Park for a little top off. We might swing a deal with the park for the group. However Socorro hotels get completely booked on these days, so the RV park could fill also.

    The Trinity Site area is unimproved, with no electricity or gasoline there.

    For more info:
    http://www.wsmr.army.mil/PAO/Trinity/Pages/default.aspx

    Other considerations: Radioactivity levels are now only 10x the usual background rates. Picking up and taking home the fused rock trinitite is not recommended, and is in fact illegal. Being there for a few hours should not result in appreciable exposure to adults, but children and infants may want to stay away.

    Anyone interested in a 7am or 7:30am caravan from ABQ supercharger on October 3?

     
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    We are tentatively planning a road trip that would have us in ABQ at the right time for this if the ABQ SpC is open. So mark my wife and I as interested.
     
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    Excellent suggestion! It looks like the place is open the first Saturday also.

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    Gotcha down. We'll need to see if ABQ is open.

    And I am assuming from your username that 73 de KC5JIF will make sense to you.
     
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    CQ de N9KET (hence andrewket)
     
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    If we leave the Albuquerque SpC around 7:00 A.M., and travel at speeds that will enable the round trip to be made in an 85 without a charging stop, any idea when we might get back to Albuquerque? I hope to make this trip but then need to head east on I-40 and trying to plan a reasonable overnight destination.
     
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    Here are my calculations.

    Using EVTRIPPLANNER.com from the ABQ supercharger to San Antonio, NM exit to Hwy 380 estimates 98 rated miles there and 104 back. (It is uphill on the trip back.) It is another 34 miles to the actual site. So a 270 RM round trip.

    That assumes a 74 mph average speed on I25. If we back off to 60 mph, we would predict 84 RM outbound and 89 RM return, for a total of 118 + 123. Expect 5 RM vampire loss from an 8 hour round trip, and that gets us to 246 RM for the round trip. I have a 261 RM capacity with a range charge.

    Drive time is 90 minutes from ABQ to San Antonio. I expect that the 17 mile segment from I25 to the Stallion guard station will be at 60mph also, for 17 minutes. From Stallion to Ground Zero is another 17 miles, and my guess is that will be 40mph or about 26 minutes, so a total of 2 hours 14 minutes, each way.

    This also assumes no wind, ambient temp of 80. If things go against us, such as a cold snap, high winds, etc, a charge somewhere en route will be needed. There are several RV parks with 50 amp service on the way back, in Socorro, Lemitar, Bernardo, Belen, and Isleta if necessary. I was thinking of stopping at the Very Large Array, and probably needing a brief 30 - 45 minute top off somewhere. If you want, you could drop your MS at the Socorro RV park to top up, and join us to tour the VLA while its charging.
     
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    I just realized the Balloon Festival starts the same weekend. Just booked 3 nights in ABQ, so no need to try and make time on I-40 east after the Trinity and VLA excursion. Saturday outing historic and scientific areas, Sunday enjoying the festival, then on the road Monday morning to...somewhere else! My wife (N7DZU) and I are both excited to be doing this! Hope we have some more folks interested, but if not I'm sure we'll have fun with a small caravan of two Model S and at least 3 hams :)
     
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    I am in the process of making this work! If it does, it'll be me and my dad.

    With an older battery with slight degradation, I would feel more comfortable if we could work in a short charge stop at the RV park.
     
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    I think we're all going to need a charge at the RV park. I hope they are able to simultaneously supply 3 or more Model S with 50 amp service...
     
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    #12 bluefuego, Sep 23, 2015
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    Trinity Atomic Site "Ground Zero" caravan October 3 from ABQ SC ??

    Are we only 3 cars? Has this been posted on the New Mexico owners meetup?

    Eta: I just posted a discussion on the NM meetup group.
     
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    I did some work with EV Trip Planner on this.

    If we include the VLA, and if we travel at 60 mph on the Interstate and 50 mph on the state highways, I get:

    Lv ABQ SpC 07:30 [240 rm range charge]
    Ar San Antonio 09:05 [163 rm remaining]
    Ar Trinity 09:48 [129 rm remaining]

    take 1.5 hrs to tour, get through gates, etc

    Lv Trinity 11:18
    Ar Socorro 12:15 [86 rm remaining]

    eat lunch, charge for 1 hour

    Lv Socorro 13:15 [116 rm remaining]
    Ar VLA 14:24 [60 rm remaining]

    take 3 PM tour

    Lv VLA 16:00 [60 rm remaining]
    Ar Socorro 17:09 [37 rm remaining]

    eat dinner, charge for 1.5 hrs

    Lv Socorro 18:39 [82 rm remaining]
    Ar ABQ SpC 19:46 [9 rm remaining]

    It'd be nicer if we just had one charging stop, especially if it s $24 per charge, but I don't see how to make that work with the VLA schedule unless we left ABQ at 07:00 and we'd just make it in time for the 1 PM VLA tour and arrive in Socorro about 3:40 PM for a 2.5 hour charging stop.

    Skipping the VLA greatly simplifies things, but...
     
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    Had a great time meeting Reddy and Bluefuego. The RV park in Socorro was very accommodating in letting us swap our cars through as we caravaned in central NM. Trinity was sobering; the VLA was a wonderful celebration of exploration of the heavens.

    Sorry more of you couldn't join us...
     
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    #15 reddy, Oct 5, 2015
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    We had a great time, highly recommend this for anyone touring New Mexico first weekend in October. And particularly great to meet KK7P and BlueFuego , and compare Tesla notes.


    VLA pano.jpg
    Very Large Array - Panoramic View

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    Trinity Site with obelisk marking 'Ground Zero' . The area of rebar to the right marks where the remnant of the steel tower can be seen clipped off at below ground level.
     

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