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Trip Range and Consumption 2020 Model Y
- Thread starter RoBoRaT
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If that is 350 Wh/mile and city driving on a 75 kwh pack it is 214 mile of range . There are tires and other moving parts to break in; but no idea if it is 100 miles worth.
There are a few Tesla Model Y owners out there now. I wonder why no one else is chiming in with Wh/mile. On a set of Geminis and green driving it. Maybe too busy enjoying driving it? Be good to see a youtuber run a 55 mph battery drain test on one. Couple of 1000 mile highway trips I watched were 328 and 358 Wh/mi with heavy rain on the later; both are not bad real world.
I have a 3 week old MY LR w/20's. About 800 miles. I am averaging around 310 wh/mi, so Cal, not aggressive driving, more local than highway. And mostly on Chill mode. So 310 kinda sucks and my estimated range for my typical driving is somewhere in the 230-250 max range...WAY less than 316 rating. I am a living example how Model Y range will not be anywhere close to the rated 316 unless you are driving in optimal conditions, low speed, perhaps no AC or heat, etc. I have done a lot of calcs based on my actual numbers and on what other owners are posting and for an upcoming out of town trip, I am estimating we'll get around 230-250 max miles running down to 5-8% SOC. I have also learned that Tesla is using 78 kWh battery capacity for its calcs (as verified by Nikola app). But that's not reality and most will only drive to 5% at max. So here's my real numbers: 75 kWh x 95% = 71.25 usable kWh divided by 285 ish (we expect) so max range of 250.
RichAZ/CapeCod
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You guys are depressing me. The Bolt we own (2019 Premier) does around 250 miles on a full charge with no issues, and, if I'm just puting around, I've seen 300 (did on a trip from Cape Cod to Boston). Do keep in mind that speeds hit only around 65 in my neck of the woods when on major roads (Route 3 to Boston). And I'm sure not putting the Bolt in the same class as the MY. But, common!
Rich
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Still getting one this Fall/Winter. Love the Tesla SuperCharger network.
Rich
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Still getting one this Fall/Winter. Love the Tesla SuperCharger network.
TimothyHW3
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I don't know how you drive, but that seems insanely high. You either floor it too much on each stop or I dunno, maybe preheat while staying in D, no idea. As you can see it gets even better in the summer from the guy below you. I think his values are realistic, because I can easily go below that on my AWD M3.
It works like this
77-78kWh when absolute brand new, drops to about 76 pretty fast.
Then you have 4.5% buffer or 3.5kWh. Tesla hides this under 0%, but you can still use it - you just have to drive slowly below 0 (steady 50-60mph should be ok)
So you have 100%-0% about 73.5-74kWh.
If I do the math with the 236Wh/m above I get 315 miles and you have another 10-15 miles ontop of that below 0%.
I haven't had to run the battery down low. 19" AWD, most driving for the 230 wh/mi was on 55 MPH roads driving around 5 MPH over. Using FSD, following distance set to 5 or 6 (max). The 236 wh/mi was two of my normal commutes, same settings, but there is about 1/3 of the drive on 70 MPH roads vs 55.
The 230 wh/mi day was hot. Mid 80's on the way in, mid 90's going home. The 236 day was mild, low 80's. Tire pressure the normal 42 PSI cold.
The 230 wh/mi day was hot. Mid 80's on the way in, mid 90's going home. The 236 day was mild, low 80's. Tire pressure the normal 42 PSI cold.
I don't think it is that high, I have a lifetime consumption of around 330 (1700 miles including an 1100 mile road trip). Local trips are a bit better, around 300. I'd be happy if I can get it below 300. 20" TSportline wheels with Michelin AS/3+ tires.
TimothyHW3
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You are comparing apples to oranges, you have the most inefficient Model 3 sitting at 20" and you are talking about lifetime, usually also winter, and the guy above you was talking about perfect sunny California weather.
The only way I can think of him getting that high is to have the AC blasting high and stop and go traffic in L.A. If that is the case I can see that, but even then it is too high. It is probably the right foot problem.
The only way I can think of him getting that high is to have the AC blasting high and stop and go traffic in L.A. If that is the case I can see that, but even then it is too high. It is probably the right foot problem.
Could also be a majority of the trips he has taken were very short city drives also. My model Y has been back at Tesla for the past 10 days so I don't really have much driving data on it, but I have been driving the loaner model S they gave me. My average since I picked up the car is like 550 wh/mile which is absolutely insane, but I have only driven it to and from the gym every day with the exception of 2 highway trips. My trip to the gym is 0.9 miles and I go through 7 stop signs. Those trips are usually around 600 wh/mile and have peaks of over 1000 wh/mile at the start.
I’m at 301 over roughly 4,000 miles now. Had my LR AWD with 20” since March in North Dallas. Done a few 500+ miles road trips at mostly 75-80 mph. Other than that it gets a pretty good work out around town. Especially with my 3 teenagers at home nowadays wanting to use it all the time
700 miles in on my Dual Motor Y on Gemini’s, TesliFi has my average at 234 Wh/Mile here in Denver, so plenty of significant elevation changes in 80-90* heat. Split of 60/40 city/hwy miles, driving average/not aggressive outside of the occasional fun run. I’m not really sure how I could average over 300, maybe those out there doing so need to re-evaluate their driving habits a bit?
Not sure if you're responding to my post, I have a Model Y (LR AWD) as in my signature. And indeed SoCal weather (Nevada/Utah for the trip), only had it 6 weeks.
As far as my prior posts on poor Wh/Mi, I mentioned I live on a hill. Trying to figure out why my overall wattage use is so high, I isolated a trip down the hill and back up the hill and backed out those drives to get a Wi/mi. Here's the stats: the up/down trips represent about 15% of our total miles to date (950) and is about 500' altitude gain/loss in the 1.8 mile average up/down trip. Total watts, round trip, is about 1800 over 3.8 miles. So call it 473 Wh/mi. So I did the math: If I eliminated all the up/down trips, my average Wi/mi goes from 310 to 282. So there you have it, even when hills are only 15% of total miles, hills beats up the Wh/mi pretty hard. The without hills 282 Wh/mi puts me in the general range of expectation. So get rid of my hill and all is good. Problem is, I live on a hill! LOL.
Some traffic slowed me down today, yielding even better range. This is another round trip. FSD seems to yield lower power consumption than when I drive .
TomServo
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