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Trip Report: San Francisco Bay Area to Las Vegas, NV (Presidents Day Weekend 2023)

My family and I did a road trip with our Long Range Model X from the San Francisco Bay Area to Las Vegas, NV over an extended Presidents Day weekend. I did a little Supercharger hunting on the trip, so the charging stops in this trip report aren't necessarily as efficient as possible.

We did the outbound leg in two days, starting from home Thursday evening (we all had Friday off). We decided to grab some food in Dublin on the way out of the Bay Area, but otherwise it was a straight shot to Fresno, where we stayed overnight. Before calling it a night, I rolled over to the Fresno (North Riverside Drive) Supercharger to top the battery up to 91% (we didn't need a full battery). It's generally more efficient to charge at the end of a driving day, rather than the start of a day, because the battery is still warm from the driving.

We left a little later than planned on Friday morning. We did a quick touch-and-go charging stop for a few minutes at Visalia during a restroom stop, this gave us a little bit of margin to get to Mojave via CA-99 and CA-58. On the way there, the Nav system redirected us off the freeway to get around some traffic. We found ourselves on a tiny, winding 2-lane road leading to Tehachipi Loop (famous landmark for rail fans). We stopped at an observation point for a few minutes (no trains unfortunately, but we could see a long line of stopped trucks and cars on the freeway).

After getting back on the freeway, we finally arrived at the Mojave (16940 Hwy 14) Supercharger. This site has an odd mix of V2 ("150kW"), V3 ("250kW") and urban ("72kW") stalls. When we got there, all the V2 stalls were full and but no one was using the V3 stalls. If four of the people on the V2 chargers had moved to the faster V3 chargers, it would probably have improved charging speeds for everyone. This is one of those way in which a little knowledge about Superchargers can really save some time. We plugged in but only stayed a few minutes because we wanted some different lunch options and I wanted to grab a charge at the other Mojave Supercharger.

The Mojave (Sierra Hwy) Supercharger is wedged between a Wienerschnitzel and a motel, and it's really a tight squeeze for longer-wheelbase cars. We ended up getting hot dogs for lunch, and a 23-minute charging stop (the car was ready to go before us).

At this point we were running behind schedule due to a late start and unexpected traffic, so we decided to just travel as fast as possible, sacrificing Supercharger hunting. Our next charging/rest stop was Baker, CA, a large (but V2-only) site (14 minutes). The final charging stop of the day was at Primm, NV (18 minutes).

While in Las Vegas, I visited most of the Superchargers in the Las Vegas metro area, usually during the early morning. We spent a fair amount of time off "The Strip", generally doing something involving food. Notable places were:
  • Izakaya Go (Japanese-style tapas and skewers)
  • Ohlala French Bistro
  • Win Lee HK BBQ and Noodle (very reminiscent of actually being in Hong Kong)
  • Trattoria Nakamura Ya (Japanese style Italian)
Also we can recommend Area 15 for non-casino-based, family friendly activities, particularly Omega Mart.

After two full days of fun and food, we headed back on Monday (the actual Presidents Day holiday). No Supercharger hunting, just trying to get back home. We were concerned about traffic so we left Las Vegas at 0600 with a nearly-full battery, courtesy of the Las Vegas (High Roller at LINQ) Supercharger the night before. Always good to start travel days with lots of energy.

The first charging stop was at Yermo, in the parking lot of Eddie World, a huge travel stop with tons (probably literally) of snacks and drinks. This was one of the stops we passed up on our outbound trip. We wandered around Eddie World for about 20 minutes before switching drivers and heading back out.

We then went back to Mojave (16940 Hwy 14) for our second charge stop, mostly for ease of access. Of course we made sure to plug in on one of the V3 stalls. We were here for about half an hour, which was longer than needed.

We worked our way over to I-5, and did a lunch stop at the new 80-stall Coalinga Supercharger (adjacent to Harris Ranch). In years past we'd park our old Model S at the V2 chargers and have plenty of time for a sit-down meal in the restaurant. We realized that a new Model X on the V3 chargers fills up a lot faster, so in fact I had to move the car before our food even arrived. In retrospect we should have eaten at the Harris Ranch Express BBQ. With a full battery, getting back to the Bay Area was easy.

General observations:

No issues charging at any Supercharger on this holiday weekend. I only waited at one site while doing Supercharger hunting, and that was literally less than two minutes. No waiting at all on our travel days.

The current iteration of Autopilot (FSD beta 10.69.25.2) performs adequately for long freeway trips. I still prefer to navigate through freeway interchanges manually. Flashing yellow lights on overhead freeway signs can cause Autopilot to slow down. I still think AP1 does a better job of freeway driving, subjectively.

As we’ve learned over the past 7+ years of Tesla ownership, EV road tripping doesn’t need to take much longer than ICE road tripping (if at all), if you plan rest/bathroom/meal stops in places with charging. A key idea is to be flexible.

Stats:

Distance: 1309 miles
Supercharging sessions: 18 (16 different chargers, 14 new to me, 251 lifetime total)
Supercharging cost: $162.54

Bruce.


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I made this trip to Zion National Park from the SF Bay Area (Pleasanton) 2 years ago during the pandemic and we can usually do the trip in 12-13 hours. For your supercharge near Visalia (my home town) did you actually charge on 99 at Traver?
I was very disappointed with Mojave superchargers... they are 3 miles off the freeway in the sleepy little town and there were only 6 chargers there (when we were there) and a long line waiting, so we took a chance and limped our way to Barstow where we charged with spare miles to go. We also charged at Baker and had delicious Gyros at The Mad Greek Cafe in Baker, just down the street. Our destination was Saint George and Zion National Park (actually just outside of Zion, Springdale) and so we bypassed Los Vegas for our trip to save time.
I enjoyed your story!
Mike P
 
A trend I see is that people are noticing that over the years Tesla have achieved much faster charging times, and that the Superchargers have gotten stronger and faster as well. Owners have learned to travel on the bottom part of their charge, and not try to charge up to the time consuming 100% when traveling.

Superchargers are becoming more plentiful and conveniently located along busy travel routes.

Combining fast Supercharging with a restroom or meal stop, means that very little charging time is spent wasted, just sitting in the car.

Huge upside is that these frequent and quick stops really takes the druggery out of long distance travel. Bonus is that the amazing Autopilot seems to work the best out on the open highway.

For many it is a welcome relief from the previous marathon stints behind the wheel that left everyone exhausted and cranky on arrival at your destination.
 

bmah

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I made this trip to Zion National Park from the SF Bay Area (Pleasanton) 2 years ago during the pandemic and we can usually do the trip in 12-13 hours. For your supercharge near Visalia (my home town) did you actually charge on 99 at Traver?

It was actually the Visalia Supercharger. I've been to Traver, it's a nice stop but it's longer to get on and off the freeway as I recall.

I was very disappointed with Mojave superchargers... they are 3 miles off the freeway in the sleepy little town and there were only 6 chargers there (when we were there) and a long line waiting, so we took a chance and limped our way to Barstow where we charged with spare miles to go. We also charged at Baker and had delicious Gyros at The Mad Greek Cafe in Baker, just down the street. Our destination was Saint George and Zion National Park (actually just outside of Zion, Springdale) and so we bypassed Los Vegas for our trip to save time.

Yep, both Mojave sites are off the freeway and this isn't exactly ideal if you're in a hurry. If and when we do this again we'd probably do one of the Barstow Superchargers, as you did. Sounds like you had a good trip!

Bruce.
 
My family and I did a road trip with our Long Range Model X from the San Francisco Bay Area to Las Vegas, NV over an extended Presidents Day weekend. I did a little Supercharger hunting on the trip, so the charging stops in this trip report aren't necessarily as efficient as possible.

We did the outbound leg in two days, starting from home Thursday evening (we all had Friday off). We decided to grab some food in Dublin on the way out of the Bay Area, but otherwise it was a straight shot to Fresno, where we stayed overnight. Before calling it a night, I rolled over to the Fresno (North Riverside Drive) Supercharger to top the battery up to 91% (we didn't need a full battery). It's generally more efficient to charge at the end of a driving day, rather than the start of a day, because the battery is still warm from the driving.

We left a little later than planned on Friday morning. We did a quick touch-and-go charging stop for a few minutes at Visalia during a restroom stop, this gave us a little bit of margin to get to Mojave via CA-99 and CA-58. On the way there, the Nav system redirected us off the freeway to get around some traffic. We found ourselves on a tiny, winding 2-lane road leading to Tehachipi Loop (famous landmark for rail fans). We stopped at an observation point for a few minutes (no trains unfortunately, but we could see a long line of stopped trucks and cars on the freeway).

After getting back on the freeway, we finally arrived at the Mojave (16940 Hwy 14) Supercharger. This site has an odd mix of V2 ("150kW"), V3 ("250kW") and urban ("72kW") stalls. When we got there, all the V2 stalls were full and but no one was using the V3 stalls. If four of the people on the V2 chargers had moved to the faster V3 chargers, it would probably have improved charging speeds for everyone. This is one of those way in which a little knowledge about Superchargers can really save some time. We plugged in but only stayed a few minutes because we wanted some different lunch options and I wanted to grab a charge at the other Mojave Supercharger.

The Mojave (Sierra Hwy) Supercharger is wedged between a Wienerschnitzel and a motel, and it's really a tight squeeze for longer-wheelbase cars. We ended up getting hot dogs for lunch, and a 23-minute charging stop (the car was ready to go before us).

At this point we were running behind schedule due to a late start and unexpected traffic, so we decided to just travel as fast as possible, sacrificing Supercharger hunting. Our next charging/rest stop was Baker, CA, a large (but V2-only) site (14 minutes). The final charging stop of the day was at Primm, NV (18 minutes).

While in Las Vegas, I visited most of the Superchargers in the Las Vegas metro area, usually during the early morning. We spent a fair amount of time off "The Strip", generally doing something involving food. Notable places were:
  • Izakaya Go (Japanese-style tapas and skewers)
  • Ohlala French Bistro
  • Win Lee HK BBQ and Noodle (very reminiscent of actually being in Hong Kong)
  • Trattoria Nakamura Ya (Japanese style Italian)
Also we can recommend Area 15 for non-casino-based, family friendly activities, particularly Omega Mart.

After two full days of fun and food, we headed back on Monday (the actual Presidents Day holiday). No Supercharger hunting, just trying to get back home. We were concerned about traffic so we left Las Vegas at 0600 with a nearly-full battery, courtesy of the Las Vegas (High Roller at LINQ) Supercharger the night before. Always good to start travel days with lots of energy.

The first charging stop was at Yermo, in the parking lot of Eddie World, a huge travel stop with tons (probably literally) of snacks and drinks. This was one of the stops we passed up on our outbound trip. We wandered around Eddie World for about 20 minutes before switching drivers and heading back out.

We then went back to Mojave (16940 Hwy 14) for our second charge stop, mostly for ease of access. Of course we made sure to plug in on one of the V3 stalls. We were here for about half an hour, which was longer than needed.

We worked our way over to I-5, and did a lunch stop at the new 80-stall Coalinga Supercharger (adjacent to Harris Ranch). In years past we'd park our old Model S at the V2 chargers and have plenty of time for a sit-down meal in the restaurant. We realized that a new Model X on the V3 chargers fills up a lot faster, so in fact I had to move the car before our food even arrived. In retrospect we should have eaten at the Harris Ranch Express BBQ. With a full battery, getting back to the Bay Area was easy.

General observations:

No issues charging at any Supercharger on this holiday weekend. I only waited at one site while doing Supercharger hunting, and that was literally less than two minutes. No waiting at all on our travel days.

The current iteration of Autopilot (FSD beta 10.69.25.2) performs adequately for long freeway trips. I still prefer to navigate through freeway interchanges manually. Flashing yellow lights on overhead freeway signs can cause Autopilot to slow down. I still think AP1 does a better job of freeway driving, subjectively.

As we’ve learned over the past 7+ years of Tesla ownership, EV road tripping doesn’t need to take much longer than ICE road tripping (if at all), if you plan rest/bathroom/meal stops in places with charging. A key idea is to be flexible.

Stats:

Distance: 1309 miles
Supercharging sessions: 18 (16 different chargers, 14 new to me, 251 lifetime total)
Supercharging cost: $162.54

Bruce.


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Thanks for sharing,
I am just curious: 1309 miles = about 44 gals of ICE at 30mpg. At $4/gal then cost of gas vs of EV charging is about similar?

I enjoy my 2023 MYLR
 

bmah

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Mar 17, 2015
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11,757
Lafayette, CA, USA
Thanks for sharing,
I am just curious: 1309 miles = about 44 gals of ICE at 30mpg. At $4/gal then cost of gas vs of EV charging is about similar?

I enjoy my 2023 MYLR

Your math looks right to me. I can't comment on the gas price (TBH I have no idea how much a gallon of gas costs now!).

I'd be careful making generalizations about ICE vs EV costs. I mean your ICE can be everything from a Toyota Corolla to a Lamborghini Hurrican, and the EV can be a Tesla Model 3 to a Ford F-150 Lightning. It _does_ make sense to compare specific vehicles though.

Bruce.
 
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Thanks for sharing,
I am just curious: 1309 miles = about 44 gals of ICE at 30mpg. At $4/gal then cost of gas vs of EV charging is about similar?

I enjoy my 2023 MYLR
In Southern California, gas is almost $5.00 again. Over 5 in some stations. I calculated 22 mpg (my Buick) @ $5.00 is $297.50 for the trip. Much more than his costs.
 
In Southern California, gas is almost $5.00 again. Over 5 in some stations. I calculated 22 mpg (my Buick) @ $5.00 is $297.50 for the trip. Much more than his costs.
Thx. Good to know
Elec rate around here is $0.145 per kWh?
Unleaded is $3.35/gal at local Costco for my 1996 MB E 320 and I still get 28mpg (it's a I6 engine, probably the best I6 by MB, I am told)
 
Very nice writeup. I liked your terms of "Supercharger Hunting" as I think it will always pay off in the future to know where it is and which ones are easier to get to. This is particularly true as new chargers are being built very close to existing chargers. I think Tesla is smartly using existing data about use and ownership and not trying to reinvent the wheel.

I will be sure to seek out Noodle in Las Vegas for that Hong Kong experience. Great tip!
 

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disappointed with Mojave superchargers... they are 3 miles off the freeway in the sleepy little town and there were only 6 chargers there (when we were there)
When those superchargers were put in, there was no freeway in Mojave. CA58 used to run right down through the middle of Mojave until the put in the freeway bypass. Eventually, the town will probably extend out to the freeway but that doesn't happen as fast as the Supercharger rollout.
 
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