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Trump proposes higher payments for coal, nuclear power

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by omarsultan, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. omarsultan

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    Part of the reason coal is going away is that solar and wind are getting cheaper, so if this is his game plan it will only make it worse.
     
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    Reviving that nuclear project in Georgia is essentially the same as stealing about $500M from ratepayers statewide.
     
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    Isn't a government mandate on pricing = subsidies?

    I guess he doesn't see any irony on his stance?

    Republican Congressman to Oil and Gas Industry: ‘No More Subsidies’

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    During the Republican primary in 2012, Perry’s energy plan website stated: “As part of a broader tax reform strategy, I will also ask Congress to eliminate direct subsidies and tax credits that distort the energy marketplace. My plan levels the playing field.”

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    Nope, not a subsidy (duh, those are for the other side). Perry is saying that coal isn't being priced adequately for all it does. A price adjustment is needed because of the un-priced positive externalities of coal. o_Oo_Oo_O

    He mentions grid stability as the reason. As I understand it, the price of grid stability is already directly priced and included in the price of electricity (just like electricity has wholesale, transmission and distribution costs, it also has costs for uptime/downtime, frequency regulation, etc. All of those things have direct prices, and are included in the price of electricity).


    (As a side note: for an administration that is often painted as being in chaos/disarray, everyone is remarkably and consistently on point for their propaganda. This is just the latest example of their style of propaganda. A nonsensical reversal of their opponents position. Namely, the problem isn't the negative externalities of coal, but that the positive ones aren't accounted for.)
     
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    Coal is a piss poor choice for grid stability. Surprise surprise, NG and batteries are not included in the favored fuel sources.

    This is just the White House jackasses using a feeble excuse to feed money to the coal mines.
     
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    This is AWESOME. Stupid decisions like this will only accelerate the adoption of solar, wind, and battery storage.

    Shouldn't there be an IQ requirement to serve in public office? We could eliminate so many public officials from both parties with that.
     
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