... but have failed so far. Extra 65 miles of range actually would help. Drive LA (SFV) --> Mammoth (300 mi), LA <--> Palm Desert (280 mi one-day R/T). In winter, drive to Mammoth is affected by uphill (7000 ft, incl 4000 ft after final Supercharger) and cold. In summer, affected by uphill plus hitch-mounted bike rack (typical RM multiplier = 1.5). AP2? Would be fun to participate in its gradual evolution. However, AP1 is mature and provides most of what I need. My 85D is two years old and has 29K miles. No matter how hard I push the numbers, they still show that, over the next two or three years, it would cost me about $400 - $500/month more to be driving the newer car (not in terms of monthly payment but overall long-term net cost). Just can't quite justify that. And, I'm not wealthy; money does matter. Then again, if I'm ever going to pull the trigger, it should be while US and CA credits/rebates ($7500 and $2500) are still available. Otherwise, it's drive my present car until five or six years and 75K - 90K miles. Existing car has exactly the options I want/need. New would obviously be ordered that way, as well. Thoughts?