TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

[Joe F]

Short seller Andrew Left files class action lawsuit against Tesla and Elon Musk

Left ain't Right.

 

[RobStark]

Left ain't Right.

In the Head.

 

[beachbum77]

Just found a new thread from last night.

"Made a Order of white M3 on Monday 9/5, got call from Tesla today said it’s ready for delivery. They even offer me 1 year free supercharging if I can make decision today and schedule the delivery at the weekend."

Anyone here waiting for a RWD? You might want to consider a color or option change and get a year of free SC usage.

Made order and will get delivery in one week

 

[dondy]

What's up with all those short trolls coming on the forum those past few weeks ?

"Call to arms". Somebody gave link at SA, or twitter.
Just ignore.

 

[gora321]

What a joke that stock is since Elon got crazy... Oh my gosh.

There was the guy 100 years ago who invented 21 century. They said that he is crazy, eccentric...a lot of names was given for something they didn't understand. He said:
The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine!

 

[avoigt]

Short seller Andrew Left files class action lawsuit against Tesla and Elon Musk

Thats a joke they have 0 chance to get even a case and I doubt they even try to win. All they want is a headline to drive more weak bulls out. Look at the timing.

In order to win this they need to prove that Elon intentionally made a proven false statement and they need prove too that he or people close to him did agree to buy and sell stocks to make a profit timed accordingly. How unrealistic is that ?!

Even more unrealistic they need to prove that at the moment Elon made the statement he did it while consciously knowing it was a wrong statement. In terms of "secured" they need to prove that he believed the word means he has to have a written statement or LOI which he did know he did not have.

Very funny, all of those will never happen. This is pure FUD.

 

[Mich]

Just found a new thread from last night.

"Made a Order of white M3 on Monday 9/5, got call from Tesla today said it’s ready for delivery. They even offer me 1 year free supercharging if I can make decision today and schedule the delivery at the weekend."

Anyone here waiting for a RWD? You might want to consider a color or option change and get a year of free SC usage.

Made order and will get delivery in one week

Note that this is from a member with just one post, so better don't take it too serious.
Btw you like/disagree ratio is also very red...

 

[Fact Checking]

Corporate bonds are a debt security not an equity security.

I don't think Tesla will raise capital by issuing new shares but may very well raise capital for new Gigafactories by issuing corporate bonds.

Yeah, so think Elon said that they don't want to do that, but finance the Chinese Gigafactory through "local loans" - which wasn't explained but I'd interpret it as local loans to the local Tesla-owned Chinese corporation, secured against the new factory, where liability does not extend to Tesla. Encouraged by the Chinese government.

I.e. no new shares issued, no convertible bonds issued and no corporate bonds issued either.

If their cash flow goes to beyond 1b+ in Q3 then they could self-finance to a large degree without hurting growth.

 

[SpaceCash]

Short seller Andrew Left files class action lawsuit against Tesla and Elon Musk

Too funny. A SHORT is suing Elon for "price manipulation" in a period where SP dropped

 

[tivoboy]

Just liquidated my account again at a 40k lost. But it's cool. Looking around, I noticed that while my DITM leaps dropped, the OTM leaps dropped even further. I sold 22 OTM call options back when we thought we were going private and bought 10 DITM call options. At the current prices, I'll be able to do buy back 25 OTM call options.

Now I just need to ask the universe not to jump TSLA 5% before my funds settle and I can buy back in. If you can do me that favor, it'd be awesome. Thank you, universe.

Silver lining. If you're taking positions that large, positioned right you should be able to make that up quickly and you'll have 40K in losses to deduct from gains. (most likely ST) ;-)....

1st rule of trading. Don't lose money.
2nd rule of trading, know when to TAKE A LOSS.
rules 3-X, repeat rules 1 and 2

Short seller Andrew Left files class action lawsuit against Tesla and Elon Musk

This is going to one of many, sadly. As funny (not funny) as it sounds, when driving in my M3 and listening to CNN, the ADS these days some are for "did you lose money in the Tesla stock run-up around the take private action?", "if so, contact us now"

I wonder if they know I'm driving a TESLA?

 

[CaliBear1]

In the Head.

 

[dennis_d]

Thats a joke they have 0 chance to get even a case and I doubt they even try to win. All they want is a headline to drive more weak bulls out. Look at the timing.

In order to win this they need to prove that Elon intentionally made a proven false statement and they need prove too that he or people close to him did agree to buy and sell stocks to make a profit timed accordingly. How unrealistic is that ?!

Even more unrealistic they need to prove that at the moment Elon made the statement he did it while consciously knowing it was a wrong statement. In terms of "secured" they need to prove that he believed the word means he has to have a written statement or LOI which he did know he did not have.

Very funny, all of those will never happen. This is pure FUD.

Let's not talk about impossible, remember what happened to Porsche and VW, they had to settle for almost 6.2 bln in damages to shorts of VW.

 

[tivoboy]

Just liquidated my account again at a 40k lost. But it's cool. Looking around, I noticed that while my DITM leaps dropped, the OTM leaps dropped even further. I sold 22 OTM call options back when we thought we were going private and bought 10 DITM call options. At the current prices, I'll be able to do buy back 25 OTM call options.

Now I just need to ask the universe not to jump TSLA 5% before my funds settle and I can buy back in. If you can do me that favor, it'd be awesome. Thank you, universe.

Silver lining. If you're taking positions that large, positioned right you should be able to make that up quickly and you'll have 40K in losses to deduct from gains. (most likely ST) ;-)....

1st rule of trading. Don't lose money.
2nd rule of trading, know when to TAKE A LOSS.
rules 3-X, repeat rules 1 and 2

Agreed. I bought some calls in anticipation of some good news coming out of the Joe Rogan interview. At the current low $280 prices, I don't think it'll go down <$275 unless something out of the ordinary happened. The stock price should only go up (slowly) from here for the near future, especially when the bad macro goes away.

Unfortunately, I still see <275 a very high probability. Most likely in the short term, when no real good news can come out till upcoming earnings. So, TRADE around it wisely.

 

[SpaceCash]

Let's not talk about impossible, remember what happened to Porsche and VW, they had to settle for almost 6.2 bln in damages to shorts of VW.

They did??? Had never heard of them having to pay out shorts.

 

[dmckinstry]

Yeah. This stock is pretty much broken now.

Not the stock, just the market.

 

[avoigt]

Let's not talk about impossible, remember what happened to Porsche and VW, they had to settle for almost 6.2 bln in damages to shorts of VW.

I just recommend not to compare law in the US to the one in Germany. Very different principles. Completely different legislation too.

And BTW the Hedgfond who sued did not get a penny back nor did the court rule in their favor. So what you have written is false.

Read this:

Die Hedgefonds versuchten übrigens später, Porsche wegen Marktmanipulation auf Schadensersatz zu verklagen. Doch die Gerichte sprachen Porsche frei, die Hedgefonds blieben auf ihren Verlusten sitzen. Waren ja nur ein paar Milliarden.

Der Porsche-VW-Coup: ein Lehrstück über Leerverkäufe

 

[sdtslafan]

SO LITTLE SIGNAL TO NOISE ON THIS SITE TODAY. LET ME HELP.

MODEL 3 EASILY OUTSOLD ALL BMW MODELS COMBINED IN THE US IN AUGUST, 2018.

 

[beachbum77]

Note that this is from a member with just one post, so better don't take it too serious.
Btw you like/disagree ratio is also very red...

It is not the first time people are reporting getting almost immediate VIN assignment on RWD. What is novel is getting free SC access (if true). Tesla is increasing some of the discounts on new cars on EV-CPO.com. So I could see then offering incentives for RWD M3's. A lot of people canceled orders for RWD when AWD became available, and demand for AWD has been stronger than what Tesla expected. Free SC access should be much cheaper than discounting a car, and would not impact Q3 GP.

 

[dondy]

Just found a new thread from last night.

"Made a Order of white M3 on Monday 9/5, got call from Tesla today said it’s ready for delivery. They even offer me 1 year free supercharging if I can make decision today and schedule the delivery at the weekend."

Anyone here waiting for a RWD? You might want to consider a color or option change and get a year of free SC usage.

Made order and will get delivery in one week

lol, I love such posts.

Now the only thing is remained is to link the "new thread" you found so we can get more information from the poster. Of course the alternative is to ask mods to ban you for posting misleading information.

 

[X Fan]

Just found a new thread from last night.

"Made a Order of white M3 on Monday 9/5, got call from Tesla today said it’s ready for delivery. They even offer me 1 year free supercharging if I can make decision today and schedule the delivery at the weekend."

Anyone here waiting for a RWD? You might want to consider a color or option change and get a year of free SC usage.

Made order and will get delivery in one week

FUDster.....it would only take one investigation/indictment of short sellers that have planted false news driving down stock price to stop this FUD.

As I noted, many pages ago, I would hope Board is actively engaging a Security company to discover which short sellers are improperly hurting stock through false statements.