For the Model S, that's a really weak list for over twice the price. It doesn't even have a range advantage.
I agree.
Come on Tesla, let's see that interior/tech refresh. I mean, at least add the X's auto-open front doors already. You can do it!
I disagree: while I lamented loudly and often about Tesla not doing improved S and X sooner, at this point, that is water under the bridge, and for the time being, they are focusing on the Model 3. During this time, there will be a situation in which the Model 3 has:
- The only Tesla vehicle with premium suppliers
- The only Tesla vehicle with the premium products from the premium suppliers
- The only Tesla vehicle with the best supplier teams
- The only Tesla vehicle with the latest manufacturing experience
- The only Tesla vehicle with the latest Tesla knowledge and technology
- Most of the newest manufacturing attention for automobiles at Tesla
For the time being, the Model 3 will have all the best attention.
Then, Tesla has a lot of new vehicle models coming, which will incrementally introduce models that each have their own niche that fits some market segment better than the Model 3:
- Tesla Semi, for those of you with big loads (this is Tesla tiptoeing into the industrial end of mobile equipment, transport, mobile energy, trucks, tractors, etc.; they might not even try anything past semi for quite some time, if ever, or they could retool the Fremont factory for a full range of electrified industrial equipment after they finish their next version road vehicle manufacturing robots installed in Nevada.)
- Model Y, a bus-like Model 3 (think minivan/SUV/wagon/X)
- Roadster 2020, an actual all-Tesla Roadster
- Pickup
Then, finally, updates for Model S and Model X can be considered. It may well be 2025 by the time Model S and Model X are redesigned much, and by then, Lucid Air will have taken over. (Looks like Germany is all about weak compliance cars now; Germany is weak lately. And the rest of Europe and Asia is playing catchup. China may have the only other luxury EV comparable to USA manufacturers like Lucid.)
On the other hand, maybe Tesla wants to keep its Model S & X market share, and will do a redesign on them in 2018 and 2019. But I think we shouldn't expect anything very soon. Because this is a legitimate question, once we start to see comfortable S curve numbers on Model 3 production (comfortable from the point of view of stockholder longs and uncomfortable from the point of view of stockholder shorts), I'm certain that Tesla will be feeling pressure to explain where the Model S and Model X are going from potential customers in that market segment. Therefore, I'd be unsurprised to hear news from Tesla about this in 2018. At that moment, we can see how committed they are to finally fixing S & X, or if they are just going to do another refresh, update, revisit, revamp, or uninspired refinement, without any understanding why the market is asking for stuff to get done. (I have a sinking feeling not one Tesla employee has ever owned a Mercedes S class or even higher end E class, Cadillac Escalade, or Ford Expidition, and most can't even afford the newest mid level or even low level ICEs.)