TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

Two firmware version designations. Why-O-Why?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by heems, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. heems

    heems Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2011
    Messages:
    125
    Location:
    San Diego
    Whose brilliant idea was to have two firmware version #s? We started with the 1.X.Y series and than at some point in their wisdom Model S software team added 4.X to the mix. Now to top it off we even have non 1-to-1 mappings (e.g. 4.1 is 1.19.27 and 1.19.29). Why all the confusion? What was wrong with the good old basic software version designation (Release.Major.Minor) they started out with? :confused:
     
  2. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

    Joined:
    May 17, 2009
    Messages:
    18,235
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Probably so a shorter, simpler number for some customers to remember but I agree it is a little odd.
     
  3. montgom626

    montgom626 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Messages:
    1,339
    Location:
    USA
    I would suggest that two sets of numbers just makes if tougher for everyone. Also, most MS owners on average are pretty savvy folks who can handle whatever version Tesla adopts.
     
  4. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,019
    Marketing vs. Engineering: the Epic Battle.

    Engineering loves a good hierarchical versioning scheme that helps in maintaining software module dependency clarity and the like.

    Marketing loves ideas like the Roadster being "Car v2.0", "Car v2.5". Therefore the first Model S's were "Car v3.0" and now "Car v4.0" that we're in the production ranks. (Note: pure speculation and BS'ing... this may be what they're thinking, but I'm an IT Engineer by background so don't trust me for any clever marketing advice. I once invented a product name which was a clever misspelling of a common word, and unfortunately it stuck and caused problems for a long time.)
     
  5. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

    Joined:
    May 17, 2009
    Messages:
    18,235
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    That's my guess as well. Looks like they are trying to do both.
     
  6. mknox

    mknox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2012
    Messages:
    8,561
    Location:
    Toronto, ON
    Do the Canadian models need a slightly different firmware version to address things like compulsory (non-switchable) DRLs?
     
  7. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    13,257
    Location:
    Sarasota, FL
    I think they started with the 1.xx.xx and then decided to try and simply it to v4.x hence the 1.xx.xx is now in ( ). Fair of you to ask the question, but personally it's waaaaay down the list of anything that might bother me.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Probably.
     
  8. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    15,487
    I don't generally complain about such things because the marketers generally win -- the less useful number is the one chosen if we only get one. :(
     
  9. sfriedrich

    sfriedrich Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2012
    Messages:
    52
    Maybe they're just trying to get to eleven sooner?
     
  10. Discoducky

    Discoducky Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Messages:
    2,884
    Location:
    Seattle
    Are both sets of version tracking numbers visible in the same UI screen?
     
  11. Doug_G

    Doug_G Lead Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    15,851
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    The Roadster has a "region" setting in the VDS maintenance screens, so probably the Model S is the same.
     
  12. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    13,257
    Location:
    Sarasota, FL
    Affirmative.
     
  13. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2011
    Messages:
    14,241
    Location:
    Columbia River Gorge
    What am I missing? Why is this a problem?
     
  14. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    15,487
    So far.

    I suspect and worry that will change with 4.2, and perhaps 4.1 -- partly in response to feedback about the multiple flavors of 4.0 that have been released.

    Lesson: Be careful what you complain about; the resolution often goes counter to what you'd like.
     
  15. Discoducky

    Discoducky Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Messages:
    2,884
    Location:
    Seattle
    a pic would be awesome. it sucks enough not being able to go down to my garage and check for myself.
     
  16. ddenboer

    ddenboer MODEL X #1770

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2011
    Messages:
    317
    Location:
    San Martin, CA
    IMG_1450.jpg
     
  17. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    15,487
  18. Zextraterrestrial

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    Messages:
    3,636
    Location:
    Humboldt/Los Altos
    I have V 4.1 ( 1.19.31)
    seems good w/ charging. nothing different from 4.0 but the windshield washer fluid warning that I can tell.
    Will drive some tomorrow
     
  19. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    13,257
    Location:
    Sarasota, FL
    1.19.31.....amazing that we're watching Tesla work almost in real time. Every time I come to this thread there's another update.
     
  20. steve841

    steve841 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,397
    Location:
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    I feel like the kid who doesnt get picked to play on a team .... STILL have the Windows 95 edition....
     

Share This Page