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Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by gene, Jul 21, 2016.
Review: Hyundai Ioniq - electric Ioniq trio charge ahead
Just yesterday, November 9th 2016 this information packed review of the Ioniq. It looks like quite a nice car, I was surprised.
Llewellyn goes over the top about the paddle wheels on the steering wheel to control regen. Seems like a useless gimmick that makes is more difficult to drive. You now have accelerator and brake pedals plus fiddling with the steering wheel paddles to control speed.
I dropped off my i30cw for servicing at the local Hyundai dealer last week, and they were kind enough to give me a ride in an Ioniq EV to work.
I liked it. I wasn't expecting to see things like ventilated seats. And the car seemed to handle pretty good.
Reports on SpeakEV that Hyundai in the UK are quoting ridiculous lease rates for this (much like Kia did with the Soul EV). Shame.
Ridiculous high or low?
Contract Hire - 3+23 = £715 per month.
3+23 @ 8,000 mpa
Premium 28kWh £415 + VAT
Premium SE 28kWh £440 + VAT
I'm not familiar with UK leases and your shorthand but it does seem to be ridiculously expensive.
They must not have much faith in their residual values and are not willing to subsidize it.
3 months worth up front for a deposit then 23 months of payments.
The top one the author didn't specify the mileage but the bottom ones are for 8000 miles per annum.
VAT is 20%.
This is way over BMW pricing.
If the Ioniq prices like a Leaf S, about $30K then there's usually a Nissan discount around $4,000, then $7500 fed, $2500 (califonia) and purchase price gets down to $16,000. It's a decent looking and performing car for this price.
Looks like they are working on an autonomous version. Software looks similar to ours.
2016 Hyundai Autonomous Ioniq Concept
I had the opportunity to drive the Ioniq BEV this week in New Zealand.
Overall it's a nice looking car and has a real feeling of "normality" about it. By that I mean it didn't look weird and it didn't drive weird - reassuring for folks who haven't driven an EV before, and possibly a good corporate fleet vehicle as well.
The ride is smooth and the driver's controls are fairly intuitive. They have ditched a "gear stick" in favour of 3 buttons - D, P, R. The car is fairly roomy and seems well put together. Unfortunately this normality maybe something of a weakness. It still only has a 22kWh battery and despite getting a creditable 220km range, the car is by no means as quick or nimble as you might expect from an EV. This means that the vehicle is in no way memorable or gives you that buzz of being part of the EV revolution.
That said, the Ioniq is affordable, sensible and represents a strong start from Hyundai. Go team EV!
Sounds like just what is needed... a "normal" car which is an EV.
Just watched Bjorn's 2 part review of the Ioniq in the winter in Norway. He was quite impressed with it. Other than Tesla, he is recommending it over any other EV.
looks good, just needs a much bigger battery. Needs 50kwh at least...
well... you know the latest chademos also provide up to ?65kw which i think as long as you stay around 50-55kwh for batterysize isn't too bad. I very much doubt that a 50kwh tesla battery will pull 120kw from a supercharger.
The car was getting crazy good mileage despite the winter, maybe the best of any EV due to smaller size and aerodynamics. He was typically driving rather slow too due to the weather conditions (freezing rain). There are a lot DCFC's around Norway, so given that people generally will be traveling shorter distances than drivers here, I think it's going to do pretty well. Can't argue with always wanting a bigger battery though .
P.S. When these are available in LA (first market I hear) I will take one for a spin and report back. My Soul EV lease is up in December 2017, and my Model 3 reservation was early on 3-31, so I'll have to make some kind of decision a bit less than a year from now. Love the Soul, no problems at all, but another thread is discussing long term battery degradation, which I don't want any part of. Not for $32,000.
It would be good to have a viable alternative.
Norwegians don't drive significantly shorter distances than Americans. They drive less often.