Uber's autonymous cars can read traffic lights and navigate city traffic. I wonder when AP will catch up...
Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh
Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh
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Uber's autonymous cars can read traffic lights and navigate city traffic. I wonder when AP will catch up...
It sounds like you'd rather have lane keeping over antonymous driving as long as it looks better to you - nothing wrong with having a preference of esthetics over function.Seriously? I'm not buying anything with bug eyes on the top of my car. It's a science project PR gimmick. If that's what it takes to turn a corner, I DON'T WANT IT. Tesla, please don't make my beautiful car ugly with a bunch of AP crap.
True, however google cars were driven by google personnel only, and not offering rides for profit to the general public. Uber is first there.Google cars have driven without a driver for a long time. When comparing to Tesla we need to compare cars that anyone can buy from car dealer (or from Tesla) today.
Google cars have driven without a driver for a long time. When comparing to Tesla we need to compare cars that anyone can buy from car dealer (or from Tesla) today.
One Uber AP is 100.000$
True. The "ahead of Tesla" portion in the thread title makes effective click-bait, IMO.Google cars have driven without a driver for a long time. When comparing to Tesla we need to compare cars that anyone can buy from car dealer (or from Tesla) today.
Totally agree. There are advantages over using a car service in lieu of purchasing a vehicle no matter how it is being driven. Even with a Tesla in my garage, there are times I will call Uber so this is great news.Exciting times. I'm happy about electric vehicles, AP and moving humankind forward. All good news.
You're missing the big picture here. This is potentially a huge revolution in transportation. The combination of electric vehicles with their low cost of ownership and low maintenance, and dispatchable transportation like uber and Lyft, and the autonomous driving will trigger a very disruptive transformation. The future looks more like using an app and requesting a car be brought to you and then deliver you where you need, at a very low cost. It changes everything. How about a sleeper car? How about a party car? How about a quiet work space or reading car? How about shuttling your kid to soccer? How about delivering a package?
The two pilot programs in Singapore and Pittsburgh are very controlled test programs with drivers in the car monitoring activity and willing to take it over at any time. Of course the goal is no steering wheel foot petals.
To those that will never want to give up their own Driving Experience I understand. Of course it sounds a lot like the folks today that are saying they don't want to give up the noise, the shifting and the rumble of those powerful gas cars.
The expected time line for this is 5 to 10 years.
My personal hope is that this will take place before I'm old enough to have my kids take my kids away.
Julian Cox has a great lecture out there where he outlines how fully autonomous EVs will collapse the existing car market and there will be a shift towards ride sharing rather than car ownership, but I don't think it will be as universal as some think.
Initially autonomous ride sharing will be a rarity only available in some urban areas and it will carry a premium. It will become more widespread, and if it gets cheaper than owning a beater car, it will become very popular among the poorer segments of society as well as among those who don't want to be bothered to have a car.
There are some downsides that will be counter trends though. I think most people who can afford to own a car will continue to do so unless they live somewhere like NYC where it's a lot of trouble to own a car vs other means of transport.
Elon has talked about people buying M3s and then having them driving autonomously on Uber or some similar service when they aren't using it. For people who can just barely afford the car, that will happen, but most people who can afford the car won't put it into those services because they won't want the car to get funky.
Most people are considerate, but some people become a bit less considerate when they feel nobody is looking. If they are in a car with no driver, they are more likely to do things they would never do if there was a driver, even if there is a camera. A car with a driver can also more quickly gauge that a passenger is about to vomit from too much drinking than an AI. And a physical driver can help get a drunk person out of the car before they vomit where an AI can, at best, just stop and open the doors.
For people renting out their cars to these services, cleaning will become more of a chore. I also think there will be a number of deep pocketed players who will jump in and pretty much monopolize the market and force the individuals out. An Amazon cab company is going to have a better rep than some anonymous guy's car. Amazon cabs can advertise daily cleaning of the cars and a standard for cleanliness individuals can exceed, but it will be a crap shoot for the public whether they get a clan Uber or not. People aren't going to be too happy if their car arrives and the person before puked their guts out and didn't report it.
Because autonomous trip cars are going to get thrashed, many people who can afford their own car will continue to own a car. Despite btoeing a more expensive transportation option, most Americans own one or more passenger vehicle. When they get in the car, they know what to expect. They don't need to interact with people who can be of a dubious nature (I've run into a few on buses and the light rail). And they can go where ever they want with no delays.
Autonomous cars makes that a little less of an advantage, it eliminates most of the dubious people problems, but you can't be guaranteed the state of the ride, nor can you just jump in and go this minute.
Another thing is autonomous cars will extend mass transit into lower density areas better than any other form of mass transit today, but for those living in rural areas, autonomous ride sharing is still going to be uncommon. If you do order a car, it can take an hour or more to get there. It will be much easier to take your own car.
Maybe _a_ car, but why own multiple cars, when alternatives are not just cheaper, but also pretty convenient and relaxing? Autonomy means traveling driveway to parking lot without having to drive. If you own your own car, unless you can afford an autonomous system, you're going to be spending a lot of time driving instead of doing something else.
That would be true of some buyers. However, the aim of it would be to sell a premium car _with an autonomous system_ to buyers who couldn't otherwise afford one.
Autonomous cars won't get thrashed hard, because they'll drive themselves and they'll not drive like idiots. Prius taxis show that electrification allows for durability at high mileage.
Autonomous shared cars won't have a driver so they'll have plenty of cameras instead. Expect a hefty surcharge if you mess up the car.
Of course, the large majority of people live in urban and suburban areas. If those people stop buying cars, there could be an interesting effect on rural areas.
But to me the biggest reason for people having a car is something you haven't mentioned: dealing with car seats for children.