Yes, the multiple angles confirms it's real. The debris on the road, the damage above the right rear tire, and the cars pulled over ahead in one of the pics suggest an accident. But nothing to indicate that it was a crazy accident like in Mexico and I don't think we can get away with another "pole-vaulting" explanation.
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Ugh. Another Model S fire - 2013-11-06
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I considered selling this morning but my wife talked me out of it and I was happy I didn't sell. Had nothing to do with ER, it was the over reaction and I thought I would be able to buy back lower. When I saw this I sold, pretty sure I will get tsla on sale, and I'm an uber bull on tsla. This is going to be ugly.
I share your concern but doubt it will be the next Delorean or a 100K paperweight. It will affect the stock price. WE can only hope the driver/occupants are OK and that the cause is logically explainable.
I will continue to drive my S. The Govt crash test videos and other accounts of the S protecting it's occupants will have me happy to put my wife and child in it.
I will have to review my stock strategy though.
Sorry DaveT: Put my two cents in before your post. You are right. This is the time to gather info.
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Raffy.Roma
Rome (Italy)
From the damages that the Model S got in the front side it looks a severe accident anyway. Big amount of kinetical energy involved in the accident so that the battery pack has been hit heavily and caught fire.
If nobody got hurt to me the situation looks good for the Model S and her battery pack.
stopcrazypp
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Do we even know if the battery pack caught fire or is that the base assumption for every Model S fire? I'm not even sure what caught fire in the previous accident in Mexico (it was put out fairly quickly from the video, unlike the first fire that was hard to put out and reignited).
Norse
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would be nice from a respond from any of the photographers. I have asked both on Twitter and Instagram if there was a crash and any injured.
How do we know the damage is from the collision and not the fire?
I would say a battery fire is the base assumption, although the front right is where the 12V battery is.
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Raffy.Roma
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I meant "in the worst case that the battery pack caught fire". Of course if from the investigations it will come out that the battery pack didn't even catch fire it would be better.
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Sorry, didn't mean to be a downer. My comment was regarding the stock price itself not the safety of the car. I actually considered buying my model S since I have cash now! Regardless of the explanation, the true store will take 2-4 days to come out, in that time I'm happy to sit on the sidelines.
It also looks like front damage only so it's still "safe", but if this becomes a consistent pattern they'll need to make a design change. Oh, and don't put anything valuable in the frunk.
Raffy.Roma
Rome (Italy)
The crashing in the front side of the Model S is evident. IMO it's the other way around. The crashing is the base assumption.
Norse
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Sorry, I meant the battery as the source of the fuel for the fire, not as the initial cause. I edited my other post to include the post I was responding to so it makes more sense.
But my point was it's hard to say what the severity of the initial collision was after it's been burned up like that.
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stopcrazypp
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Do they really? I mean if a fire is inevitable, having only the front burn is certainly more desirable than having the whole car burn (esp. the passenger cell). Without more details I'm not comfortable saying there is a design change needed.
Raffy.Roma
Rome (Italy)
I am not an expert of Mechanichs, but my friends at the School of Engineering attending Civil Engineering always told me that a compressible structure absorbs better the kinetical energy rather than a rigid structure.
Todd Burch
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I've got to say that these pics don't look like a main pack fire to me. Seems like it's all contained forward of the microwave area in the frunk, which I believe is about as far forward as the main pack extends.
looking at the other picks, it does look real, but how weird, must be some kind of optical illusion or the left front side is severely altered from the accident or from emergency response.
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