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UI and Feeds Update

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We have just updated the site with a new UI and features. Please note that we are still making some adjustments and configuring things. Please let us know if you see any issues or bugs.

[If you would like to continue to use the legacy "What's New" page, I have added the ability to add a "What's New" link to your primary navigation bar and mobile bottom navbar (only effects the non-pro 2022 styles, as the pro styles already have a "What's New" link there). You can turn this on by going to your Account Preferences.]

The main updates are the following:

1. New UI Style: We have new style/theme called "TMC 2022" and TMC 2022 Dark". These are very similar to our old styles, however they are a little more streamlined, should provide better performance on both desktop and mobile, and significantly improve readability (in particular for the dark style). There are some more consequential changes that you will notice, such as: the sub-navigation bar is no longer sticky on scroll-down; on mobile, the Conversations, Alerts and Account/Profile buttons are now merged into one in the top navigation bar; and on mobile the bottom navigation bar now has the navigation menu button as well as other useful links. If you are unhappy with any of the changes, please use the "TMC Pro 2022" and "TMC Dark Pro 2022" styles which are almost identical in function to the older style. You can change/specify your preferred style on your Account Preferences page.

Or you can change it by scrolling down to the bottom of your screen:

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2. New Feeds Feature: Feeds is our new way of making TMC's Community content more accessible and easier to navigate and filter. Feeds will ultimately be taking the place of the "What's New" section, as it provides the same functionality and much more. What's New will remain accessible for those who still prefer it, however we will be removing What's New from the navigation bar at some point, so please bookmark it if you really want to use it and not Feeds.

You will notice on the Community homepage, a tab bar which allows you to switch between the various feeds that we offer. By default, existing logged in users will be taken to the "Forum list", which hasn't changed. However, you can switch to other Feeds easily, and even change your default feed from "Forum list" to a feed of your preference. This can be done in your Accounts Preference page in the section entitled "Default feed". You can also set a feed as default by going to your preferred feed, and selecting the "Set as default" button as seen here:


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3. Voting: We have added the ability to vote on threads. This affects a given thread's vote score, which can be used as a sort option for your thread. Vote scores are also used to help determine which threads make it into the "Hot" feed.


Below are sections from the new TMC Website Tutorial that cover Voting and Feeds.




Feed tabs:
On the Community homepage there are various feeds that you can view:

  • Blog: A selection of curated article threads from our community.
  • Hot: A curated list of some of the best and most recent threads created by TMC members.
  • Discussion: A full list of all threads (similar in function to the older “New posts” page).
  • Questions: Displays all Question threads. Each of these feeds can be filtered by forum and more. For example, you can display only threads with unread content by clicking here.
  • Social: Shows the latest social status updates (AKA profile posts) from across the community.
  • Forum list: Not actually a feed, but rather is a shortcut to jump to the traditional list of forums, which can also be accessed by clicking on the “Forums” link in the sub-navigation bar under “Community”. On this page you can select.

You can choose between two different formats for thread feeds:

  • List: The classic, more condensed, view of the threads.
  • Card: A richer layout which previews the actual content of the thread’s first post, allowing you to take actions such as reacting to the post.

There is also a “Set as default” button. This option allows you to change what feed is shown by default when you come to the TMC Community homepage. This option can also be adjusted within your account settings in the “Preferences” section.


Feed Filtration:
The “Filter” section allows you to drill down to the specific content that you’d like to see. You have many options for filtering, including:


  • In forums: If you’d like to limit the feed to content only from specific forums that you select..
  • Unread content: If you’d only like to see content you haven’t previously seen/read.
  • Watched threads: If you’d only like to see threads you’ve created, interacted with, or manually watched.
  • Watched forums: If you’d only like to see threads from forums you’re watching.
  • Unanswered content: If you’d like to see content that doesn’t have any replies.
  • People you follow: If you’d only like to see content from your members that you have followed.
  • Order by: This option gives you a variety of sort orders such as:
    • Promotion date - when the threads were promoted to the feed by TMC Staff.
    • Last post date - when the latest reply to the threads were posted.
    • Thread creation date - when the threads were first created.
    • Vote score - the number of votes the threads received.
    • First post reaction score - the reaction score (incl. Likes, Informative, Helpful, etc.) of the first post of the threads.

Once you have specified your filtration options, you can select the “Save” button if you would like them to be saved and selected by default the next time you visit that specific feed.

Thread Voting: On any thread list page, such as a forum or a feed, you can up a thread. You can also up vote a thread on each thread's first post. The vote score is taken into account for curated feeds such as Blog and Hot. It also is a sort option that you can use in order to see threads with the highest vote score.
 
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Can you post a screenshot? I'm not sure what reveal buttons you are referring to. I did try going to some profiles but couldn't see any way to see things. As before, I still see the member's avatar, message count, reaction score and location on the left of a message.
I can't post a screen-shot because it suddenly went back to the old style (honestly, I'm not crazy!). What I was seeing before was that on the left side underneath the avatar/name of the poster was a small "down-arrow" .. when I clicked that all the other stuff appeared (number of likes/posts etc). I didn't change any settings, so perhaps it was just me browser cache catching up with the forum changes.
 
Can you post a screenshot? I'm not sure what reveal buttons you are referring to. I did try going to some profiles but couldn't see any way to see things. As before, I still see the member's avatar, message count, reaction score and location on the left of a message.
I can't post a screen-shot because it suddenly went back to the old style (honestly, I'm not crazy!). What I was seeing before was that on the left side underneath the avatar/name of the poster was a small "down-arrow" .. when I clicked that all the other stuff appeared (number of likes/posts etc). I didn't change any settings, so perhaps it was just me browser cache catching up with the forum changes.
For a while there was a down (and then up) arrow to reveal (and then hide) member data (join date, reactions, post count, location). Enough reaction in this thread (and others) had the design team reverse course and go back to showing this content by default.

There are a few posts about it in this thread, mainly around the value of showing said metadata.
 
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We didn't go full YouTube, as you can still see how many dislikes a given post has. YouTube doesn't have front-end like/dislike scores for its channels/users.. Also, YouTube is a much larger website, with millions of users, so it is vastly less personal and is harder for any one individual to abuse. As far as I can tell, YouTube did what it did to protect its partners and buddies in the corporate media and government. We are not trying to prevent our user's from seeing that other users' content has been disliked.
Glad things are not headed that direction. 👍🏻(The YouTube reference was a poor attempt at a joke, in hindsight.)
 
Could the update have broken the "Ignore" feature? I haven't used it in many years but have recently done so and ignored content is showing up for me, even as being denoted as "You are ignoring content by this member. Show ignored content." Seems to happen if it's the most recent post on a thread. If I reload the thread it disappears but it rather defeats the purpose. I also still see their ratings on other posts.
 
Could the update have broken the "Ignore" feature? I haven't used it in many years but have recently done so and ignored content is showing up for me, even as being denoted as "You are ignoring content by this member. Show ignored content." Seems to happen if it's the most recent post on a thread. If I reload the thread it disappears but it rather defeats the purpose. I also still see their ratings on other posts.
I've noticed this issue since the last update and like you mention, it is especially apparent if an ignored user has posted the most recent message in a thread.
 
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Could the update have broken the "Ignore" feature? I haven't used it in many years but have recently done so and ignored content is showing up for me, even as being denoted as "You are ignoring content by this member. Show ignored content." Seems to happen if it's the most recent post on a thread. If I reload the thread it disappears but it rather defeats the purpose. I also still see their ratings on other posts.
I'm not sure if ratings were ever hidden, were they?
 
Could the update have broken the "Ignore" feature? I haven't used it in many years but have recently done so and ignored content is showing up for me, even as being denoted as "You are ignoring content by this member. Show ignored content." Seems to happen if it's the most recent post on a thread. If I reload the thread it disappears but it rather defeats the purpose. I also still see their ratings on other posts.
I've noticed this issue since the last update and like you mention, it is especially apparent if an ignored user has posted the most recent message in a thread.
This sounds like the behavior where TMC "<thread.id>/unread" links show an ignored user's post if it's the only unread post in a thread. If so that isn't particularly new: I think TMC started doing that back in March.

It can be little annoying to see posts by ignored users when that wasn't my intent. However it can also be handy to open a specific post by an ignored member to see that particular post, without going through "show ignored".
 
@danny

I'm seeing what looks like advertising at the bottom of each page since the update. Supporting members shouldn't see advertising. Is this new and/or correct?

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That looks like ads, but I think it is scraping posts that contain links to external products and then populating that carrousel of "products being discussed on TMC". Likely no ad revenue to the site.
 
That looks like ads, but I think it is scraping posts that contain links to external products and then populating that carrousel of "products being discussed on TMC". Likely no ad revenue to the site.
Correct, these are not ads but rather a tool which intelligently tries to show products that have been discussed that it believes may be of interest to you. And yes, we do sometimes generate revenue if users buy products linked in those threads. But this is all generated using content on TMC, so we believe it to be much more relevant and useful than traditional ads.

If however our Supporting Members feel this is intrusive or undesirable, we can look into hiding it for them.
 
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We have just updated the site...

Thanks for all the work you are doing.

Three Issues I am still experiencing:
  1. "and even change your default feed from "Forum list" to a feed of your preference"

    When I first log in and go to "Community" (or when I hit the big red TMC at the top) it always sends me to "Discussion."

    ● How can I make "Forum List" my default location in the TMC website?

    When in "Discussion" there is a red "Set as default." But when in "Forum List" there is no "Set as default" (at least in my browser).

  2. ● Still can't "Unwatch" from this ("article") thread.

  3. ● Still can’t “Save draft” for posts I return to in order to re-edit. (I can save a draft in new posts.)
Tim
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- Windows 8.1
- Firefox v82.0.2 (64-bit)
 
"and even change your default feed from "Forum list" to a feed of your preference"

When I first log in and go to "Community" (or when I hit the big red TMC at the top) it always sends me to "Discussion."

● How can I make "Forum List" my default location in the TMC website?

When in "Discussion" there is a red "Set as default." But when in "Forum List" there is no "Set as default" (at least in my browser).
So when we took this update live, we made sure every existing account had "Forum list" as the default tab, so I am not sure how yours got changed to "Discussion". But yeah, the lack of "Set as default" button on the forum list page was a design oversight. However, you can go and make it your default in your account preferences page: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/account/preferences
Just look for "Default feed" field.

● Still can't "Unwatch" from this ("article") thread.
We have a fix for this ready, we just need to set a time to run the update.

  1. ● Still can’t “Save draft” for posts I return to in order to re-edit. (I can save a draft in new posts.)
I honestly do't know what that isn't working right. It works for me. I would be interested to know if anyone else is experiencing this.
I'm not sure what this is about.

Yes, I find it intrusive and I don't want to see it as a supporting member.
Noted. I will investigate this and discuss with @doug
 
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So when we took this update live, we made sure every existing account had "Forum list" as the default tab, so I am not sure how yours got changed to "Discussion". But yeah, the lack of "Set as default" button on the forum list page was a design oversight. However, you can go and make it your default in your account preferences page: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/account/preferences
Just look for "Default feed" field.

I forgot to mention that I already tried that. My "Preferences" page has a "default feed:" choice. It shows "(Default)" as the initial setting. When I click on it or the up/down arrows next to it all that is listed is just "(Default)" (with blue background). There are no other selections. So I cannot choose another default feed.

We have a fix for this ready, we just need to set a time to run the update.

OK. I'll wait. Just wanted to note it in case it had already been fixed for others.

I honestly do't know what that isn't working right. It works for me. I would be interested to know if anyone else is experiencing this.
I'm not sure what this is about

I can send more screen shots if necessary. Honestly, I am not making it up. The "Save draft" option is missing mysteriously when I return to edit previous posts, even first posts in my threads. Everything was fine before the change.

Noted. I will investigate this and discuss with @doug

Since someone else brought it up, I will say that as a paying member I also prefer not to have any advertisements. One of the reasons I totally abandoned the Tesla Owners Online forum was over its ridiculous amount of advertising. But I understand that prices are increasing (e.g., for forum software subscriptions). And the revenue that advertising brings in is tempting. Cookies, metadata gathering, and outright ads are profitable (look at Google). All I can say is, try to resist for as long as possible.
 
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After giving the new UI a go for a couple of days, I found the experience frustrating and somewhat “clunky”. Went back to the old format and haven’t looked back. Old format was more efficient for me to get to “new posts” and “alerts,” especially when using my iPhone.
 
I forgot to mention that I already tried that. My "Preferences" page has a "default feed:" choice. It shows "(Default)" as the initial setting. When I click on it or the up/down arrows next to it all that is listed is just "(Default)" (with blue background). There are no other selections. So I cannot choose another default feed.
Sorry, seems that the dropdown is broken for some reason. I will get it fixed ASAP. No idea how or why this happened.

I can send more screen shots if necessary. Honestly, I am not making it up. The "Save draft" option is missing mysteriously when I return to edit previous posts, even first posts in my threads. Everything was fine before the change.
The change in no way touched that part of the software. Is this happening to you on multiple devices?

Since someone else brought it up, I will say that as a paying member I also prefer not to have any advertisements. One of the reasons I totally abandoned the Tesla Owners Online forum was over its ridiculous amount of advertising. But I understand that prices are increasing (e.g., for forum software subscriptions). And the revenue that advertising brings in is tempting. Cookies, metadata gathering, and outright ads are profitable (look at Google). All I can say is, try to resist for as long as possible.
Thanks for the feedback. I will look into it.
 
After giving the new UI a go for a couple of days, I found the experience frustrating and somewhat “clunky”. Went back to the old format and haven’t looked back. Old format was more efficient for me to get to “new posts” and “alerts,” especially when using my iPhone.
Yeah, that's why we kept the older version there, for those who prefer it. As I have mentioned, having more buttons is more efficient, also less user friendly. It would be more efficient if Tesla had 50 buttons in their center console (for those who are familiar with them), but would also be cluttered and confusing.

Anyway, we are kind of testing the waters here, so nothing's set in stone.
 
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...The change in no way touched that part of the software. Is this happening to you on multiple devices?...

I do almost all my work on the desktop (with big screen). But just checked editing a first post on a thread I started using my iPhone. I can edit, but there is no "save draft" available. But if I start a new post, I can see the "Save draft" floppy disk icon. So the situation is the same on desktop and on smartphone.
 
I do almost all my work on the desktop (with big screen). But just checked editing a first post on a thread I started using my iPhone. I can edit, but there is no "save draft" available. But if I start a new post, I can see the "Save draft" floppy disk icon. So the situation is the same on desktop and on smartphone.
@danny think it might be related to a misconfiguration for "supporting members"? If I recall, they have extra time to edit posts, so I wonder if the upgrade broke something.

Edit: for a point of reference: I can edit this post, but there is no save draft. Just undo, redo and toggle BB code. I honestly do not recall if there was a "save draft" function for editing posts before.

For new posts, I do see the floppy disk. So I wonder if this is expected behavior?