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UI and Feeds Update

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We have just updated the site with a new UI and features. Please note that we are still making some adjustments and configuring things. Please let us know if you see any issues or bugs.

[If you would like to continue to use the legacy "What's New" page, I have added the ability to add a "What's New" link to your primary navigation bar and mobile bottom navbar (only effects the non-pro 2022 styles, as the pro styles already have a "What's New" link there). You can turn this on by going to your Account Preferences.]

The main updates are the following:

1. New UI Style: We have new style/theme called "TMC 2022" and TMC 2022 Dark". These are very similar to our old styles, however they are a little more streamlined, should provide better performance on both desktop and mobile, and significantly improve readability (in particular for the dark style). There are some more consequential changes that you will notice, such as: the sub-navigation bar is no longer sticky on scroll-down; on mobile, the Conversations, Alerts and Account/Profile buttons are now merged into one in the top navigation bar; and on mobile the bottom navigation bar now has the navigation menu button as well as other useful links. If you are unhappy with any of the changes, please use the "TMC Pro 2022" and "TMC Dark Pro 2022" styles which are almost identical in function to the older style. You can change/specify your preferred style on your Account Preferences page.

Or you can change it by scrolling down to the bottom of your screen:

Style Chooser Screenshot.png


2. New Feeds Feature: Feeds is our new way of making TMC's Community content more accessible and easier to navigate and filter. Feeds will ultimately be taking the place of the "What's New" section, as it provides the same functionality and much more. What's New will remain accessible for those who still prefer it, however we will be removing What's New from the navigation bar at some point, so please bookmark it if you really want to use it and not Feeds.

You will notice on the Community homepage, a tab bar which allows you to switch between the various feeds that we offer. By default, existing logged in users will be taken to the "Forum list", which hasn't changed. However, you can switch to other Feeds easily, and even change your default feed from "Forum list" to a feed of your preference. This can be done in your Accounts Preference page in the section entitled "Default feed". You can also set a feed as default by going to your preferred feed, and selecting the "Set as default" button as seen here:


Set as Default Screenshot.png


3. Voting: We have added the ability to vote on threads. This affects a given thread's vote score, which can be used as a sort option for your thread. Vote scores are also used to help determine which threads make it into the "Hot" feed.


Below are sections from the new TMC Website Tutorial that cover Voting and Feeds.




Feed tabs:
On the Community homepage there are various feeds that you can view:

  • Blog: A selection of curated article threads from our community.
  • Hot: A curated list of some of the best and most recent threads created by TMC members.
  • Discussion: A full list of all threads (similar in function to the older “New posts” page).
  • Questions: Displays all Question threads. Each of these feeds can be filtered by forum and more. For example, you can display only threads with unread content by clicking here.
  • Social: Shows the latest social status updates (AKA profile posts) from across the community.
  • Forum list: Not actually a feed, but rather is a shortcut to jump to the traditional list of forums, which can also be accessed by clicking on the “Forums” link in the sub-navigation bar under “Community”. On this page you can select.

You can choose between two different formats for thread feeds:

  • List: The classic, more condensed, view of the threads.
  • Card: A richer layout which previews the actual content of the thread’s first post, allowing you to take actions such as reacting to the post.

There is also a “Set as default” button. This option allows you to change what feed is shown by default when you come to the TMC Community homepage. This option can also be adjusted within your account settings in the “Preferences” section.


Feed Filtration:
The “Filter” section allows you to drill down to the specific content that you’d like to see. You have many options for filtering, including:


  • In forums: If you’d like to limit the feed to content only from specific forums that you select..
  • Unread content: If you’d only like to see content you haven’t previously seen/read.
  • Watched threads: If you’d only like to see threads you’ve created, interacted with, or manually watched.
  • Watched forums: If you’d only like to see threads from forums you’re watching.
  • Unanswered content: If you’d like to see content that doesn’t have any replies.
  • People you follow: If you’d only like to see content from your members that you have followed.
  • Order by: This option gives you a variety of sort orders such as:
    • Promotion date - when the threads were promoted to the feed by TMC Staff.
    • Last post date - when the latest reply to the threads were posted.
    • Thread creation date - when the threads were first created.
    • Vote score - the number of votes the threads received.
    • First post reaction score - the reaction score (incl. Likes, Informative, Helpful, etc.) of the first post of the threads.

Once you have specified your filtration options, you can select the “Save” button if you would like them to be saved and selected by default the next time you visit that specific feed.

Thread Voting: On any thread list page, such as a forum or a feed, you can up a thread. You can also up vote a thread on each thread's first post. The vote score is taken into account for curated feeds such as Blog and Hot. It also is a sort option that you can use in order to see threads with the highest vote score.
 
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I do almost all my work on the desktop (with big screen). But just checked editing a first post on a thread I started using my iPhone. I can edit, but there is no "save draft" available. But if I start a new post, I can see the "Save draft" floppy disk icon. So the situation is the same on desktop and on smartphone.
@danny think it might be related to a misconfiguration for "supporting members"? If I recall, they have extra time to edit posts, so I wonder if the upgrade broke something.

Edit: for a point of reference: I can edit this post, but there is no save draft. Just undo, redo and toggle BB code. I honestly do not recall if there was a "save draft" function for editing posts before.

For new posts, I do see the floppy disk. So I wonder if this is expected behavior?
OK, sorry I misunderstood. If you are talking about using the "edit" button for a message you already posted, well there is no "Save draft" functionality in that case.
 
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@danny think it might be related to a misconfiguration for "supporting members"? If I recall, they have extra time to edit posts, so I wonder if the upgrade broke something.

Edit: for a point of reference: I can edit this post, but there is no save draft. Just undo, redo and toggle BB code. I honestly do not recall if there was a "save draft" function for editing posts before.

For new posts, I do see the floppy disk. So I wonder if this is expected behavior?

Yes--that is my situation. I was pretty sure that you could "Save draft" when writing a new post and when editing a previous post. Maybe I'm wrong?
 
OK, sorry I misunderstood. If you are talking about using the "edit" button for a message you already posted, well there is no "Save draft" functionality in that case.

Oh, OK.

So right now I am just waiting for the ability to "Unwatch" this (article) thread.

Good job (to everyone) on wrestling this latest software into shape.
 
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For those of you who are still using the older style/theme, would you be willing to switch to the new style if I were to provide a version of the new style that more or less functioned the same?

Basically I would duplicate the new style, and make the following changes:
  • Make it so that on mobile the visitors tabs (alerts, conversations, account) are separate buttons:

    screenshot-test2.tmc.lol-2021.12.09-15_46_02.png



  • Make both levels of the navigation bar sticky (stay with you as you scroll the page)

    screenshot-test2.tmc.lol-2021.12.09-15_49_23.png


  • Finally, this one is more difficult so less of a guarantee, but make it so that when you click the account button, the account tab within the dropdown is the first tab (instead of alerts) or is selected by default. This would make sense to do since users can already get straight to Alerts on mobile by just clicking the bell icon on the navbar, so now users would have quicker access to account links without having to click again:
    screenshot-test2.tmc.lol-2021.12.09-15_52_35.png

I would remove the old style so we don't have to maintain it anymore, but we would then have the following 4 options:
  1. TMC 2022 - Default (same as current one)
  2. TMC Dark 2022 (same as current one)
  3. TMC Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
  4. TMC Dark Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
The "simpler" styles would remain the default ones, but users would be able to select the "advanced" versions which basically give you quicker access to more buttons.
 
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For those of you who are still using the older style/theme, would you be willing to switch to the new style if I were to provide a version of the new style that more or less functioned the same?

Basically I would duplicate the new style, and make the following changes:
  • Make it so that on mobile the visitors tabs (alerts, conversations, account) are separate buttons:

    View attachment 742493


  • Make both levels of the navigation bar sticky (stay with you as you scroll the page)

    View attachment 742494

  • Finally, this one is more difficult so less of a guarantee, but make it so that when you click the account button, the account tab within the dropdown is the first tab (instead of alerts) or is selected by default. This would make sense to do since users can already get straight to Alerts on mobile by just clicking the bell icon on the navbar, so now users would have quicker access to account links without having to click again:
    View attachment 742498

I would remove the old style so we don't have to maintain it anymore, but we would then have the following 4 options:
  1. TMC 2022 - Default (same as current one)
  2. TMC Dark 2022 (same as current one)
  3. TMC Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
  4. TMC Dark Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
The "simpler" styles would remain the default ones, but users would be able to select the "advanced" versions which basically give you quicker access to more buttons.
I’d be willing to give it a try, before casting a final vote, if there were one button presses for Alerts and New posts. Especially mobile access. Thanks.
 
For those of you who are still using the older style/theme, would you be willing to switch to the new style if I were to provide a version of the new style that more or less functioned the same?

Basically I would duplicate the new style, and make the following changes:
  • Make it so that on mobile the visitors tabs (alerts, conversations, account) are separate buttons:

    View attachment 742493


  • Make both levels of the navigation bar sticky (stay with you as you scroll the page)

    View attachment 742494

  • Finally, this one is more difficult so less of a guarantee, but make it so that when you click the account button, the account tab within the dropdown is the first tab (instead of alerts) or is selected by default. This would make sense to do since users can already get straight to Alerts on mobile by just clicking the bell icon on the navbar, so now users would have quicker access to account links without having to click again:
    View attachment 742498

I would remove the old style so we don't have to maintain it anymore, but we would then have the following 4 options:
  1. TMC 2022 - Default (same as current one)
  2. TMC Dark 2022 (same as current one)
  3. TMC Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
  4. TMC Dark Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
The "simpler" styles would remain the default ones, but users would be able to select the "advanced" versions which basically give you quicker access to more buttons.
I'd use it too if both levels of the Nav bar were sticky (as you proposed).
 
For those of you who are still using the older style/theme, would you be willing to switch to the new style if I were to provide a version of the new style that more or less functioned the same?

Basically I would duplicate the new style, and make the following changes:
  • Make it so that on mobile the visitors tabs (alerts, conversations, account) are separate buttons:

    View attachment 742493


  • Make both levels of the navigation bar sticky (stay with you as you scroll the page)

    View attachment 742494

  • Finally, this one is more difficult so less of a guarantee, but make it so that when you click the account button, the account tab within the dropdown is the first tab (instead of alerts) or is selected by default. This would make sense to do since users can already get straight to Alerts on mobile by just clicking the bell icon on the navbar, so now users would have quicker access to account links without having to click again:
    View attachment 742498

I would remove the old style so we don't have to maintain it anymore, but we would then have the following 4 options:
  1. TMC 2022 - Default (same as current one)
  2. TMC Dark 2022 (same as current one)
  3. TMC Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
  4. TMC Dark Advanced 2022 (new one with the changes mentioned above)
The "simpler" styles would remain the default ones, but users would be able to select the "advanced" versions which basically give you quicker access to more buttons.
Would give it a shot.
 
For those of you who are still using the older style/theme, would you be willing to switch to the new style if I were to provide a version of the new style that more or less functioned the same?

Before I answer, can I negotiate to get the ability to select "First message" (instead of "Last message") as the default filter choice when going to any forum? (Can we already do that?)
 
I’d be willing to give it a try, before casting a final vote, if there were one button presses for Alerts and New posts. Especially mobile access. Thanks.
It would be one button presses for alerts (though at the top, not bottom), and one button press to get to Feeds which can be configured to give you the same results as what New Posts does.

Also, Feeds will at some point provide functionality for users to save multiple feed configurations which they can switch between easily.

Before I answer, can I negotiate to get the ability to select "First message" (instead of "Last message") as the default filter choice when going to any forum? (Can we already do that?)
When going to any forum, or any thread? I would need to know which in order to answer this correctly.
 
We just ran a bunch of updates. Here are the changes that should matter to you:
  • The bug preventing users from watching or unwatching an Article Thread is fixed now.
  • The bug preventing the "Default feed" dropdown field from working has been fixed: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/account/preferences
  • We have added two new styles/themes, which make the 2nd navigation bar sticky and maintain the dedicated Alerts and Conversations buttons when in mobile view. These new styles are currently called "TMC Pro 2022" and "TMC Dark Pro 2022". We may rename the old styles soon, and may even remove them all together at some point, so we encourage you to switch to the newer version of your preference. If anything is missing that you feel is meaningful, please let me know.
As usual, if you see any bugs or run into any issues, please let me know here in this thread.
 
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I forgot to mention that I already tried that. My "Preferences" page has a "default feed:" choice. It shows "(Default)" as the initial setting. When I click on it or the up/down arrows next to it all that is listed is just "(Default)" (with blue background). There are no other selections. So I cannot choose another default feed.
Please try this again. It should work now.

For example, going to "Tesla Parts for Sale." That is a forum, is it not? (Or sub-forum?) Or "Supercharging & Charging Infrastructure" is another example.

I think I'd prefer to always default to "First message."
Oh, ok, I know what you mean now. No, currently there is no way to save the filter configuration for an individual forum. What you can do however is save the filter configuration for the "Discussion" feed. So you could filter for the forums of your choice, and set the sort to "Creation date" and you should get basically what you want. As I mentioned earlier, we hope to soon be able to provide the ability to save multiple feed filter configurations, so you can hop between the ones that are of interest to you with the click of a button.
 
We just ran a bunch of updates. Here are the changes that should matter to you:
  • The bug preventing users from watching or unwatching an Article Thread is fixed now.
  • The bug preventing the "Default feed" dropdown field from working has been fixed: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/account/preferences
  • We have added two new styles/themes, which make the 2nd navigation bar sticky and maintain the dedicated Alerts and Conversations buttons when in mobile view. These new styles are currently called "TMC Pro 2022" and "TMC Dark Pro 2022". We may rename the old styles soon, and may even remove them all together at some point, so we encourage you to switch to the newer version of your preference. If anything is missing that you feel is meaningful, please let me know.
As usual, if you see any bugs or run into any issues, please let me know here in this thread.
Thanks for the update. I didn't like the updated mobile style before but the new TMC Pro 2022 style fixes my complaints.

Will you be doing tracking to see if the Groups button is frequently used? I've been on TMC over 6.5 years and have probably only click on Groups a couple times.
 
I've noticed some odd behavior, happened yesterday thought it was just a fluke, then it happened again today. After hitting "Post reply" my comment completely disapears and doesn't get posted. Have to write it again and then it works. Doesn't seem to save a draft either, though I'm not sure how you access a saved draft anyway.