[UK] 2022.36

[MrBadger]

Then why do they advertise stopping for traffic lights?

Because you get traffic lights on divided roads with a central reservation, which falls within the valid driving domain.
If you want to be AP on other road types you need the FSD 'City Streets' beta which is "designed" for 'city streets' which was/is due to be available 'later this year' as of 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and probably beyond.

 

[goRt]

Are we meant to be using AP on “local roads” with cars parked alongside? I know many people do, but the warning makes it very clear it’s designed for use on dual carriageways.

I'm not using ap on local roads
It's just driving down the street alerting to parked cars on the other side

 

[MrBadger]

I'm not using ap on local roads
It's just driving down the street alerting to parked cars on the other side

Is it bonging or just showing the red/yellow crescents on screen?

I think the visualisations have been a bit over sensitive/cautious for some time, but have only got the bongs when stopping behind a car that has just started to move off.

 

[Irata]

I am finding it is recognising things that aren't there much more often.

Parked next to a single floor office building, the car thought I was next to a large bus.

Yesterday, it recognised a roundabout road sign as a national speed limit sign. It was, after all, a black circle on a white background albeit with four exits, but still this was a rather bad mistake.

 

[Durzel]

My high beams came on under some light foliage cover at about 07:45 this morning - just lol.

Why on Earth at the bare minimum is there not logic not to use high beams between sunrise and sunset? There's absolutely no need for them.

 

[Cardo]

Then why do they advertise stopping for traffic lights?

Many dual carriageways have traffic lights?

 

[Cardo]

I'm not using ap on local roads
It's just driving down the street alerting to parked cars on the other side

Ah, the proximity warnings? Yes, I’ve also had these. Latest firmware is quite sensitive and will bing for all sorts of nonsense. Passing other cars, bollards, you name it.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

Mine rarely sees parked cars on its own side let alone parked cars on the other side..

Since the vision update the driving screen is mostly bins, with the occasional phantom lorry.

 

[goRt]

Is it bonging or just showing the red/yellow crescents on screen?

I think the visualisations have been a bit over sensitive/cautious for some time, but have only got the bongs when stopping behind a car that has just started to move off.

Alarm and red car
This is with a route planned so the car knows I'm going to follow the bend in the road and not plough into the car on the opposite side
This is a new behaviour not present in .2, but there in .5

 

[Skie]

Alarm and red car
This is with a route planned so the car knows I'm going to follow the bend in the road and not plough into the car on the opposite side
This is a new behaviour not present in .2, but there in .5

I’m on 28.2 still and see that behaviour. People waiting to pull out from an estate right on a dog leg and the car has a panic attack because I’m driving at them for a second or two. It doesn’t take into account the road layout, just that it thinks a collision is imminent.

 

[Bonze]

I see they've snuck in a 36.6, more fixes to fixes

 

[spon88]

I’m on 28.2 still and see that behaviour. People waiting to pull out from an estate right on a dog leg and the car has a panic attack because I’m driving at them for a second or two. It doesn’t take into account the road layout, just that it thinks a collision is imminent.

Had similar to this a few days ago but with a pedestrian on the pavement as I approached a sharpish bend. The car obviously thought the pedestrian was in the road - lots of beeping etc and I think, although not 100% sure, a slight automatic braking. Quite a shock! This was just "normal" driving - I avoid AP etc other than if I'm on a quiet dual carriageway; it's just way too jittery and unreliable.

 

[Cardo]

Had similar to this a few days ago but with a pedestrian on the pavement as I approached a sharpish bend. The car obviously thought the pedestrian was in the road - lots of beeping etc and I think, although not 100% sure, a slight automatic braking. Quite a shock! This was just "normal" driving - I avoid AP etc other than if I'm on a quiet dual carriageway; it's just way too jittery and unreliable.

Sounds about right. I’ve also had more lane departure auto steering happen with the last couple of versions than in the previous year and a half of ownership.

 

[Fursty Ferret]

Are you wearing sunglasses? The sensitivity of the forward collision warnings is tuned to how much attention you’re paying to the road. If it can’t see your eyes (or you’re knee-deep in the web browser), you’ll see much earlier warnings.

 

[WllXM]

Are you wearing sunglasses? The sensitivity of the forward collision warnings is tuned to how much attention you’re paying to the road. If it can’t see your eyes (or you’re knee-deep in the web browser), you’ll see much earlier warnings.

That would actually make some sense! Is this documented somewhere?

 

[Overworked]

JIBYC, There are dual carriageways with traffic lights. In Belfast the M2 motorway ends with traffic lights!

 

[JIBYC]

I'm happy that protected highways are the target environment, but saying it "shouldn't be used" is a bit strong.

 

[diddy84]

Then why do they advertise stopping for traffic lights?

Some dual carriageways have traffic lights.

 

[randompixel]

Some dual carriageways have traffic lights.

Some motorways have traffic lights Pathetic Motorways

 

[Fursty Ferret]

That would actually make some sense! Is this documented somewhere?

I’ve been trying to find the source. It was definitely directly from Tesla and I thought it was on their website, but I can’t dig it out.

They were very clear that it would trigger the warning much further out if it didn’t think you were watching the road.