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[UK] 2022.44
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goRt
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I was unaware that the e-tron had moved the game on
We have 82 if I recall correctly
That's all that's needed
goRt
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They are not matrix unless they actually function in that way. As it stands they don’t and I doubt they ever will in existing cars.
If the rumours are correct, cars in 2023 will start shipping with different lights. If I’m a betting person, I’d put my money on the development concentrating on those and not existing cars which were never promised to get proper matrix lights.
If the rumours are correct, cars in 2023 will start shipping with different lights. If I’m a betting person, I’d put my money on the development concentrating on those and not existing cars which were never promised to get proper matrix lights.
Cardo
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I guess one issue is they reverted to non-matrix headlights in some Y builds for a bit due to what I’m guessing were supply constraints. Would Tesla want to point this out by suddenly enabling active matrix headlights on cars from around 2021 onwards, apart from those that didn’t get that matrix LEDs? I could imagine a bunch of unhappy customers demanding headlight replacements.
goRt
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goRt
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It was approved around 10 months ago but some testing bureaucracy means they still aren't available on new vehicles yet.
Being matrix just means that the light comes from an array of multiple LED pixels rather than a point source lamp for main beam and a lamp for dipped beam. In the Tesla lights a block of pixels is switched off for low/dipped beam ... so they are definitely matrix and they operate by switching on and off pixels. The fact that they lack the more sophisticated control system that some other makes use does not mean that they are no longer matrix lights.
I suppose that is just about matrix in its most basic sense. But can Tesla lights (with a software upgrade) turn off individual diodes so that, for instance, an oncoming car isn’t blinded but everything else remains on high beam and is fully illuminated? That is my understanding of a decent matrix array and what I’ve been using for years. Lights that just operate on either high beam or low beam are very basic in this day and age and something I would expect to have only on a very cheap and basic car.
Yes.
Until just very recently those advanced features weren't legal in Tesla's largest/home market. So, they likely hadn't put much effort into it.
You got that right. Crappest lights I’ve had in many years. I like to think that Tesla will enable full matrix functionality at some point but given it’s taken them several years to make the lights just about usable I won’t hold my breath.
Zilla91
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Guessing that auto high beams were legal in their largest/home market, yeah? So why were they so crap until very recently?
I wish people would stop making excuses and just call things out for what they are, namely Tesla doesn’t have the expertise to do these things very well.
Maybe they should stop hiring grads who specialise in AI or computer science and start hiring engineers who know how to program automotive headlights.
Went for a decent drive.. auto wipers worst I've ever seen them - had to switch to manual (but I'd tend to agree with others that they probably haven't changed since 2019 and it's just different weather).
The auto indicator I switched off - I deliberately created a situation where they could work (AP off, motorway, change lane - normally I'd be on AP for that so would never see it) and out of 3 attempts they only worked once.. had to manually cancel. Together with the loss of the short indicator it's just not worth it.
Media controls.. ugg. Too small, wrong place. After much waiting they brought back the trip panel.. but with that up you can't see what is playing. The proper media controls reappear on the tidal app but they've disabled the ability to minimise it so you can't see the map when it's up, so now you're faced with 'media, trip counter, map.. pick any two'. As is typical with Tesla.. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
The santa animation now shows people as elves, which I'm sure is new this year. There's also a 'jingle outside' option which I'm too chicken to enable (I presume from the description the jingle when indicating is fed to the external speakers).
Damn I wanted this to be a positive post but failed..
I do like the trip cards being back, not a gamechanger but it was sorely missed.
The auto indicator I switched off - I deliberately created a situation where they could work (AP off, motorway, change lane - normally I'd be on AP for that so would never see it) and out of 3 attempts they only worked once.. had to manually cancel. Together with the loss of the short indicator it's just not worth it.
Media controls.. ugg. Too small, wrong place. After much waiting they brought back the trip panel.. but with that up you can't see what is playing. The proper media controls reappear on the tidal app but they've disabled the ability to minimise it so you can't see the map when it's up, so now you're faced with 'media, trip counter, map.. pick any two'. As is typical with Tesla.. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
The santa animation now shows people as elves, which I'm sure is new this year. There's also a 'jingle outside' option which I'm too chicken to enable (I presume from the description the jingle when indicating is fed to the external speakers).
Damn I wanted this to be a positive post but failed..
I do like the trip cards being back, not a gamechanger but it was sorely missed.
Because up until recently they weren’t automatically enabled for everyone when activating AP. It seems like that happening caused there to be enough focus on fixing them. It could also be because matrix headlights will become legal in the US so the AHB work is just part of a bigger picture, but who knows?
Anybody else noticed a bug with the new trip/media controls card? When I'm streaming (not playing downloaded) music on Tidal and I switch the card to trip information, it doesn't play the next track on the list if I'm not on the media controls card. I have to switch back then skip back and forth to get it playing again.
It's really annoying but don't know if it's just my setup or it's a global issue.
It's really annoying but don't know if it's just my setup or it's a global issue.
So just standard LED headlamps that have basic on and off functionality then?
I disagree. Matrix lights means they can actually turn off the relevant pixels when in operation, Tesla’s lights can’t do that, ergo, they are not matrix.
Matrix headlights require software and hardware, you can’t have matrix headlights without both. Tesla may have the hardware but they don’t have the software so they aren’t matrix, just LED headlights.
No manufacturer markets or has ever marketed ‘matrix lights’ as anything other than the lights that can actually dim elements of the high beam light pattern to not blind other vehicles when keeping the rest of the high beam on.
Everything else is just a led headlight. Tesla’s headlights are not bad as LED headlights but that doesn’t make them matrix.
They might one say write the software to make them matrix but I wouldn’t hold your breath, until then they are not matrix because they don’t and can’t function as matrix lights.
Zilla91
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I hate to think how buggy/rubbish any matrix functionality will be if they ever get round to writing the software for it
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