Ahhh but which year does he meanElon says it's coming by the end of the year.
Might be the end of the next year we have a total eclipse of sun and moon at the same time.
In other words, F*** knows when that will happen
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Ahhh but which year does he meanElon says it's coming by the end of the year.
That wasn't the original deadlineOn this occasion he did meet the deadline, with FSD Beta 9 being released at midnight in Califonia.
The main UI change looks to be the 'mind of car' view:View attachment 683166
As bad as it might be, it will be better than the usual California driverI like to think of it as testing it on the Americans first...
Ahhh but which year does he mean
Might be the end of the next year we have a total eclipse of sun and moon at the same time.
In other words, F*** knows when that will happen
That’s what camp mode is forAs someone who purchased the FSD package, every improvement is welcomed here!
Still, they won't ever get to *full* self driving without a universally adopted car-car communication protocol. Otherwise, how are these vehicles going to negotiate deadlock scenarios, such as: Who is going to reverse down this narrow two way road to the next passing point to let the other car pass, when both cars have equal right of way and are playing by the same rulebook...
I think you have a car to car communication protocol - 3 wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum are monitored in most directions...As someone who purchased the FSD package, every improvement is welcomed here!
Still, they won't ever get to *full* self driving without a universally adopted car-car communication protocol. Otherwise, how are these vehicles going to negotiate deadlock scenarios, such as: Who is going to reverse down this narrow two way road to the next passing point to let the other car pass, when both cars have equal right of way and are playing by the same rulebook...
The car will be orders of magnitude safer as it won't get distractedI think the deadlock is one of the reasons why level 5 is not going to happen, but lets face it, even level 3 (officially allow eyes off) would be a step forward, then level 4 can follow, and we can worry about driverless cars (level 5) in the distant future.
Musks "good enough for us, good enough for the car" is in conflict with his "the car will be orders of magnitude safer" - parity is therefore not sufficient. And I know the argument is cameras looking in all directions at the same time, but when I'm driving I don't tell myself once a week that my side vision is not available today and my driving ability is disengagded, so I'm not sure they've even reached parity on vision.
The jury is still out with me on Tesla vision, I'd want much more evidence of night, wet driving and more complex situations. Happy day scenarios which are 90% of the time and 99% of the youtube clips are the relative easy bit.
True, and it will (potentially, maybe) react quicker.The car will be orders of magnitude safer as it won't get distracted
There are cameras on the side of my car and also one on the rearThe cameras are in the middle of the car, I suggest you try driving only looking from that position and see how well you do, little chance of seeing past the van or lorry you may be following unlike now. No ability to move the position of the camera to reduce solar flare, no chance to reposition the camera if you’re at a road junction and there is something blocking your sideways view. It’s compromised in all those regards compared to the human eye.
Model 3s have 8 cameras in total; 3 forward facing, 2 forward facing to the side, 2 rear facing to the side, and 1 rear facingThe cameras are in the middle of the car, I suggest you try driving only looking from that position and see how well you do, little chance of seeing past the van or lorry you may be following unlike now. No ability to move the position of the camera to reduce solar flare, no chance to reposition the camera if you’re at a road junction and there is something blocking your sideways view. It’s compromised in all those regards compared to the human eye.
The jury is still out with me on Tesla vision, I'd want much more evidence of night, wet driving and more complex situations. Happy day scenarios which are 90% of the time and 99% of the youtube clips are the relative easy bit.
Simple task to release the code to everyone geo-fencing the options used by regulatory regime/what's purchased - so we get improved NoA, wipers, etc. but city streets is disabledYou must be watching different videos to me than! FSD beta 9.0 looks better than 8.0, and that's with the REMOVAL of radar.
The 'vision' bit is all but solved the next hard task is route planning and decision making which is where FSD beta currently still struggles with. But if you believe Elon that's what their new supercomputer is there to do.
Watching FSD beta developing is frustrating though as the majority of Tesla owners at present can only just watch and wait.
Interesting the Navigation on Autopilot code also looks better in FSD beta. Patience is a virtual, but I do wish they stop teasing us and at least release the visualisation to the wider fleet.
Regardless of timings increased autonomy is coming and its great none of us have to buy a new car to experience it! I don't know why any Tesla owners would be against FSD developments when it really will benefit every owner.
Yes but we crash, a lot. And some of those crashes are due to being unsighted or seeing things too late. I thought the point of this was to be better than us.I kinda like musk's argument that it's enough for us, it's enough for a car.
So that would mean the car would be as good as humans, then add in it never gets distracted which makes the car better than humanYes but we crash, a lot. And some of those crashes are due to being unsighted or seeing things too late. I thought the point of this was to be better than us.
I know exactly where the cameras point - only 3 look forward and they're all centrally mounted, and as generally we drive in a forward direction they were the ones I was referring to.Model 3s have 8 cameras in total; 3 forward facing, 2 forward facing to the side, 2 rear facing to the side, and 1 rear facing
Autopilot
All new Tesla vehicles are equipped with the hardware needed for Autopilot and Full Self-Driving capability features, designed to improve functionality over time.www.tesla.com
Not just better than us, but orders of magnitude better than us. He had hoped for 2x was going to be good enough to get approval, I think the last time he commented it needed to be at least 10x better.Yes but we crash, a lot. And some of those crashes are due to being unsighted or seeing things too late. I thought the point of this was to be better than us.
At some times of year / locations, I can almost guarantee all or part of the camera suit will be compromised.side vision is not available today and my driving ability is disengagded
When the wipes smear the front camera view or get blinded is just when you might need assistance that radar / non-vision based sensor could provide.The jury is still out with me on Tesla visi
safer as it won't get distracted