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Unplugged Performance Pikes Peak Plaid (Plaid Peak) Testing - one interesting note

dark cloud

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I was curious, so I looked a few things up and might as well share them:

Pikes Peak hill climb has been competed since 1916. It is the second oldest road race in America.
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The hill was dirt and gravel up to 2002, when the Sierra club sued the city of Colorado to pave it, as the gravel spewing from the edges of the road was affecting the environment below the mountain, and it took 10 years to finish paving it.

Pikes An EV has such as advantage at that altitude, compared to a normally aspirated gas pot. Given the 3% loss of power for every 1000 ft of elevation, a 1000 horsepower normally aspirated gas engine would make just 670 horsepower at the bottom of that climb and just 580 horsepower at the top.

Whereas the 1000 hp EV still has 1000 hp. :cool:

That is why they use turbochargers to get the oxygen loss back in the engine. With a modern turbo this loss can be compensated by cranking up the boost on the fly by turning the boost up while driving as the altitude increases.

Turbocharging At Elevation - Garrett Motion

This is not new, GE started to test this back in 1918! Hill Climb

Drivers will take on oxygen in their helmets to combat the mental fatigue from the altitudes effects, so they don't make a mistake memorizing the 156 turns.

The first race winner had a time of 20.55.6, and the current record holder is a VW I.D.R electric vehicle in 2018

Romain Dumas sets Pikes Peak Hill Climb record in 2018 Volkswagen I.D. R

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good video of Peugeot rally driver Sebastian Loeb: The Pikes Peak Hill Climb - 100 Years

It is the last Sunday in June, which is June 27, 4 days from today! PPIHC Home - Fans - Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. now I have to figure out how to watch it in this CRTC restricted anti-motorsport country I live in.
 

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dark cloud

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Looking at some times from yesterday, and noticed that a BMW M3 had a time of 4:06 in an open class, while the Plaid had a time of 4:14 in the unlimited class. Was a little disappointed, and surprised. Not knowing the difference between all the classes, thought I would look up this BMW. Well it is a purpose built race car, based on the 1996 E36 M3 shell, but HIGHLY modified, owned and driven by James Clay, owner of Bimmersport BMW parts business. It does not qualify for the timed attack class because of the extensive aero modifications. God knows what the estimated cost of this thing is, but here is what they have done to this car over the past 2 years. Wow.


Also noticed Romain Dumas, the guy with the fastest time at Pikes Peak in the VW, did a 3:56 in a Porsche 911 GT2RS Clubsport.

The base price of a 911 GT2RS is 203,000 Porsche 911 GT2 Tested

The 911 GT2 RS Clubsport has a base price of $478,000. This Pikes Peak car has extensive modifications on top of this. 24 hours of Le Mans winner Porsche factory driver Romain is at the wheel.

I would say the 4 door Tesla is in pretty good company. Not so disappointed with the time now.
 
Wow, watching the live stream on YouTube and the Tesla fanbois are absolutely insufferable Jesus it’s bad ICE is the Devil, Tesla gonna win the whole thing, etc . Tesla rules, your ICE sucks, etc Wow, no wonder people have such hatred toward Tesla owners. Come on guys, have some perspective. This is an absolutely historic race, look it up if you don’t know. The plaid isn’t going to be anywhere near the lead or challenging for the win. It’s cool that it’s there and doing well, and will only get better. But man, you’re the newcomer, show a little respect.

i bet half of the people commenting have no idea that an EV previously set the fastest time ever up the mountain Sheesh
 
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dark cloud

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Wow, watching the live stream on YouTube and the Tesla fanbois are absolutely insufferable Jesus it’s bad ICE is the Devil, Tesla gonna win the whole thing, etc . Tesla rules, your ICE sucks, etc Wow, no wonder people have such hatred toward Tesla owners. Come on guys, have some perspective. This is an absolutely historic race, look it up if you don’t know. The plaid isn’t going to be anywhere near the lead or challenging for the win. It’s cool that it’s there and doing well, and will only get better. But man, you’re the newcomer, show a little respect.

i bet half of the people commenting have no idea that an EV previously set the fastest time ever up the mountain Sheesh
Yes, it is supposed to be a race, a friendly competition between comparable classes, not an environmental debate. I bet most aren't even race fans. Too much "smug" in the air 🤢
 
Here's time: PIKES PEAK INTERNATIONAL HILL CLIMB
If I read that correctly Randy Pobstn win the Exhibition Class, but was 10th overall. Also last 1/3 of the section 3 was closed so time 6:57.220 is not comparable to the Volkswagen I.D. R's 7:57.148 (cls Unlimited).

They won their class with a car they got 2 weeks ago and only lightly (for pikes peak) modified. Almost no testing or refinement etc.

Did you expect it would beat custom built hill climb specialist race cars?
 

HVM

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I just write up the results (I had no expectations, in either way)


PIKES PEAK INTERNATIONAL HILL CLIMB - Pikes Peak Int'l Hill Climb Race
FLAG: Checkered
Laps Completed: 1 - Time Of Day: 2021-06-27T15:25:16.449-06:00.

Exhibition
Track Temperature: Start=25.3°C/77.5°F
PNoCLSPICNameLapTimeSpeedSection 1Section 2Section 3NatChassis
1042Exhibition1Randy Pobst6:57.22080.1591:45.1832:21.2012:50.836USA2021 Tesla Model S Plaid
16173Exhibition2Nick Robinson7:14.70476.9351:48.1012:27.1532:59.450USA2017 Acura NSX
27735Exhibition3Jordan Guitar7:53.61570.6141:58.0552:38.7383:16.822USA2021 Acura TLX
3220Exhibition4Gregoire Blachon7:58.66169.8702:05.8972:37.4373:15.327FRA2021 VW Bug Proto TRI-TDI Diesel
4188Exhibition5Joshua Allan (R)8:16.77867.3221:55.8572:34.4363:46.485USA2021 Tesla Model 3
4483Exhibition6Johan Schwartz (R)8:29.58965.6292:06.2702:48.7383:34.581USA2021 American X Kart CrossKart
50269Exhibition7Shawn Bassett9:19.47559.7772:27.2413:10.6863:41.548USA1974 Datsun 240Z
5290Exhibition8Daijiro Yoshihara11:41.16247.6982:35.2533:57.8775:08.032JPN2018 Tesla Model 3
All
PNoCLSPICNameLapTimeSpeedSection 1Section 2Section 3NatChassis
149Unlimited1Robin Shute5:55.24694.1431:26.0022:01.8132:27.431UK2018 Wolf GB08 TSC-LT
238Time Attack 11Romain Dumas6:31.91485.3351:38.2162:14.9612:38.737FRA2019 Porsche 911 GT2RS Clubsport
398Open Wheel1Paul Dallenbach6:35.66384.5261:38.7592:13.5142:43.390USA2006 PVA-003 Dallenbach Special
48Time Attack 12Rhys Millen6:36.28184.3951:32.6272:08.6942:54.960NZL2021 Bentley Continental GT3
5991Pikes Peak Open1Raphael Astier6:36.86784.2701:37.2262:14.3512:45.290FRA2015 Porsche BBI Turbo Cup
618Open Wheel2Codie Vahsholtz (R)6:45.30182.5161:42.1592:15.0432:48.099USA2013 Ford Open
77Pikes Peak Open2Layne Schranz6:45.35182.5061:42.6492:20.1452:42.557USA2016 Chevrolet SS
8911Time Attack 13David Donohue6:45.89382.3961:43.7052:24.2672:37.921USA2019 Porsche GT2 RS Clubsport
936Pikes Peak Open3James Clay6:47.50982.0691:41.3802:19.5262:46.603USA1996 BMW M3
1042Exhibition1Randy Pobst6:57.22080.1591:45.1832:21.2012:50.836USA2021 Tesla Model S Plaid
1125Unlimited2Don Wickstrum (R)6:59.23379.7741:40.4262:21.0592:57.748USA2016 Riley LMP3
1257Pikes Peak Open4Thomas Boileau6:59.92479.6431:42.0452:21.8472:56.032USA1967 Chevrolet Camaro
1328Open Wheel3Dan Novembre7:00.27379.5771:40.6202:24.8022:54.851USA2016 Novembre KMHRAL Special
1413Unlimited3William Au-Yeung7:09.96077.7841:48.6762:30.9792:50.305CAN2012 Honda Civic
15326Pikes Peak Open5Tim Hardy7:10.54577.6781:46.3252:27.3482:56.872USA1987 BMW E30
16173Exhibition2Nick Robinson7:14.70476.9351:48.1012:27.1532:59.450USA2017 Acura NSX
1765Open Wheel4Rodney O'Maley7:25.51075.0691:50.9322:32.3853:02.193USA2018 O'Maley Special Spec VI
1824Pikes Peak Open6David Meyer7:25.71575.0341:55.0902:29.9993:00.626USA2016 Palatov D2TT
1934Porsche Trophy By Yokohama1Tanner Foust7:28.26974.6071:51.6332:30.4253:06.211USA2020 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport
20902Time Attack 14James Robinson7:28.76674.5241:47.5562:43.4152:57.795USA2019 Acura NSX
2172Unlimited4Derek Boyd7:30.02874.3151:53.4512:39.5942:56.983USA2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
2222Time Attack 15Laura Hayes (R)7:35.77373.3791:54.8832:39.8043:01.086USA2021 BMW M2CSR
2347Unlimited5Robb Holland7:40.93972.5561:53.4672:44.3313:03.141USA2018 Audi S3
2419Time Attack 16Laurent Millara (R)7:43.51572.1531:58.0482:40.1053:05.362FRA2008 Porsche 911 GT3
2596Pikes Peak Open7Andy Kingsley7:45.61471.8281:55.4132:47.8163:02.385USA2002 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo
269Porsche Trophy By Yokohama2Cameron Ingram (R)7:49.51571.2311:56.4862:40.7153:12.314USA2020 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport
27735Exhibition3Jordan Guitar7:53.61570.6141:58.0552:38.7383:16.822USA2021 Acura TLX
282Time Attack 17David Hackl7:53.71770.5991:59.1052:44.0223:10.590USA1983 Audi A1 Quattro
29429Time Attack 18Scott Crouch7:54.09670.5432:02.0862:44.3753:07.635USA2014 Subaru WRX
3086Time Attack 19Steve Zimmer (R)7:55.71770.3021:58.1442:47.6603:09.913LUX2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
3129Unlimited6Brett Dickie (R)7:58.07869.9552:02.4992:48.3253:07.254AUS2000 Honda S2000
3220Exhibition4Gregoire Blachon7:58.66169.8702:05.8972:37.4373:15.327FRA2021 VW Bug Proto TRI-TDI Diesel
3327Unlimited7Steve Goeglein7:58.93169.8312:00.7012:42.3393:15.891USA2002 Chevrolet Camaro
34413Pikes Peak Open8Zachary Lumsden7:59.19769.7922:02.7642:44.6553:11.778USA2009 Mitsubishi EVO X/Ralliart
3550Porsche Trophy By Yokohama3Kathryn Mead7:59.45769.7542:00.8022:40.1553:18.500USA2019 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport
36113Pikes Peak Open9Justin Lumbard8:00.21369.6441:59.3292:45.6723:15.212USA2021 Acura TLX
3766Unlimited8Dan Aweida8:00.63469.5832:00.2272:47.8523:12.555USA2001 Audi S3
3816Time Attack 110Chris Becker8:02.35669.3352:00.9472:45.7463:15.663USA2010 Mazda Speed 3
39117Time Attack 111Trevor Aweida (R)8:07.06768.6642:00.9002:47.8613:18.306USA2008 Ford Mustang FR500S
4035Open Wheel5John McInnes8:15.29167.5242:04.2052:51.3243:19.762AUS2020 Sierra RX3
4188Exhibition5Joshua Allan (R)8:16.77867.3221:55.8572:34.4363:46.485USA2021 Tesla Model 3
4200Parade of Champions1Matt Mullins8:17.96767.1612:02.0262:42.2433:33.698
4330Pikes Peak Open10Kevin Murdock8:24.86866.2432:08.7253:03.4673:12.676USA1991 Chevrolet Southwest Series IROC Camaro
4483Exhibition6Johan Schwartz (R)8:29.58965.6292:06.2702:48.7383:34.581USA2021 American X Kart CrossKart
45903Porsche Trophy By Yokohama4Charles "Chas" Wirken8:40.97664.1952:15.1902:53.9653:31.821USA2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
46119Open Wheel6Earl O'Maley (R)8:42.99663.9472:08.8773:03.1073:31.012USA2015 O'Maley Special Spec E II
4778Pikes Peak Open11Kash Singh8:43.77463.8522:09.0663:01.0043:33.704USA2017 Ford Mustang GT
48888Pikes Peak Open12Raymund Guerrero9:03.65361.5172:21.3623:18.2643:24.027USA2008 Dodge Viper
4926Pikes Peak Open13David Schmidt II9:04.52761.4182:17.3353:05.9543:41.238USA2014 Ford Mustang Howe TA2
50269Exhibition7Shawn Bassett9:19.47559.7772:27.2413:10.6863:41.548USA1974 Datsun 240Z
51610Pikes Peak Open14Craig Lumsden9:22.73459.4312:14.3603:05.8514:02.523USA2011 Mitsubishi EVO X/Ralliart
5290Exhibition8Daijiro Yoshihara11:41.16247.6982:35.2533:57.8775:08.032JPN2018 Tesla Model 3
5331Unlimited9Paul Gerrard--.---Great Britain2021 Enviate Hypercar Evolution
5456Pikes Peak Open15Chris Strauch--.---USA1970 Porsche 914 Wide body
55669Pikes Peak Open16Adam Smith (R)--.---USA2004 Howe/Lefthander ASA Stock Car
 

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